Comments on: Mac Zealots Ruin It For Everyone http://www.billrini.com/2003/10/11/mac-zealots-ruin-it-for-everyone/ Bill Rini's Poker Weblog Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:42:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: ragecg http://www.billrini.com/2003/10/11/mac-zealots-ruin-it-for-everyone/#comment-26219 ragecg Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:17:04 +0000 http://www.billrini.com/?p=7#comment-26219 Hey Bill, long time reader/grinder first time poster. I've been doing animation, compositing, motion graphics and visual effects for the last 10+ yrs. Myself and the companies I work for have come to ONLY use Windows. Period. ...you are NOT alone:) We've done our own side-by-side testing like everyone else has focusing on the top apps we use daily from Alias/Adobe/2d3 boujou yada, yada, and tested every new-fangled mac & windows version upon release, but time and time again, it always came down to the price to raw performance ratio and the Windows-based PC hardware and windows software combo won every time. But, who are we really..... raise early, raise often:) ragecg http://www.rageontilt.com Hey Bill, long time reader/grinder first time poster.

I’ve been doing animation, compositing, motion graphics and visual effects for the last 10+ yrs.

Myself and the companies I work for have come to ONLY use Windows. Period.

…you are NOT alone:)

We’ve done our own side-by-side testing like everyone else has focusing on the top apps we use daily from Alias/Adobe/2d3 boujou yada, yada, and tested every new-fangled mac & windows version upon release, but time and time again, it always came down to the price to raw performance ratio and the Windows-based PC hardware and windows software combo won every time.

But, who are we really…..

raise early, raise often:)
ragecg
http://www.rageontilt.com

]]> By: Colin http://www.billrini.com/2003/10/11/mac-zealots-ruin-it-for-everyone/#comment-5 Colin Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 http://www.billrini.com/?p=7#comment-5 about Reason #1 (Exposé): this is not a simple "virtual desktop manager". It's a manager with a new (as in, innovative) feature which seems to be a great idea. Hit a key and all windows shrink to fit side by side on the screen. Select one and it comes back to front. (no, that's not like the "mosaïc" win 3.1 placement, as the windows "de-zoom" - you still see the whole of their contents). See http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/expose/ . There are a few false guesses in your article (heh, guess that's what you get when you guess), but not as important. (keep in mind when reading this comment that I'm not a Mac OS zealot. I run linux). about Reason #1 (Exposé): this is not a simple “virtual desktop manager”. It’s a manager with a new (as in, innovative) feature which seems to be a great idea. Hit a key and all windows shrink to fit side by side on the screen. Select one and it comes back to front. (no, that’s not like the “mosaïc” win 3.1 placement, as the windows “de-zoom” - you still see the whole of their contents). See http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/expose/ . There are a few false guesses in your article (heh, guess that’s what you get when you guess), but not as important.
(keep in mind when reading this comment that I’m not a Mac OS zealot. I run linux).

]]> By: Bill Rini http://www.billrini.com/2003/10/11/mac-zealots-ruin-it-for-everyone/#comment-6 Bill Rini Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 http://www.billrini.com/?p=7#comment-6 Colin, perhaps the issue is more along the lines of the fact that I don't feel it all that important. Even in Linux I never really used the virtual desktops so a feature like this is going to have a very limited appeal to me overall in terms of my selection criteria. I can see your point though but to me it's simply a more advandced desktop manager because I don't use the current ones. :-) You're correct in stating that I have some guesses in my article. Unfortunately, Apple hasn't seen fit to send me a new Mac so I can spend some time experiencing the OS. :-) I either have to read about it or I get a few brief moments playing around with the OS on a friend's computer or at the Apple Store. But even without guessing, doesn't it seem odd that one of the top 10 reasons to upgrade to the new Panther is threaded email? I don't have to guess about what that means. Colin, perhaps the issue is more along the lines of the fact that I don’t feel it all that important. Even in Linux I never really used the virtual desktops so a feature like this is going to have a very limited appeal to me overall in terms of my selection criteria. I can see your point though but to me it’s simply a more advandced desktop manager because I don’t use the current ones. :-)
You’re correct in stating that I have some guesses in my article. Unfortunately, Apple hasn’t seen fit to send me a new Mac so I can spend some time experiencing the OS. :-) I either have to read about it or I get a few brief moments playing around with the OS on a friend’s computer or at the Apple Store. But even without guessing, doesn’t it seem odd that one of the top 10 reasons to upgrade to the new Panther is threaded email? I don’t have to guess about what that means.

]]> By: badandy http://www.billrini.com/2003/10/11/mac-zealots-ruin-it-for-everyone/#comment-7 badandy Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 http://www.billrini.com/?p=7#comment-7 I find in general that all of the mac users I encounter pretentiously believe that the mac is superior to anything else. However, I never find a mac user that is knowelegible as to why. They understand nothing about computer hardware architecture or operating systems, or their purpose. They know nothing about using unix and the shell. They dont understand file naming conventions, or file formats. They always whine about how they are better, but never have a damn clue as to what they are talking about. A computer is a tool to get things done, not a lifestyle choice. Mac users are incredibly insulting and arrogant towards pc users, but have no general knowledge about computers. Im an open source proponent and I hate what microsoft does in the world, but apple is a much more closed shop than microsoft has ever been. Until mac users can stop whining about all they have to prove, trotting out tired rhetoric at every opportunity, they can shove it. I find in general that all of the mac users I encounter pretentiously believe that the mac is superior to anything else. However, I never find a mac user that is knowelegible as to why. They understand nothing about computer hardware architecture or operating systems, or their purpose. They know nothing about using unix and the shell. They dont understand file naming conventions, or file formats. They always whine about how they are better, but never have a damn clue as to what they are talking about. A computer is a tool to get things done, not a lifestyle choice. Mac users are incredibly insulting and arrogant towards pc users, but have no general knowledge about computers. Im an open source proponent and I hate what microsoft does in the world, but apple is a much more closed shop than microsoft has ever been. Until mac users can stop whining about all they have to prove, trotting out tired rhetoric at every opportunity, they can shove it.

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