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		<title>By: iopq</title>
		<link>http://www.billrini.com/2005/05/18/designing-the-perfect-online-poker-room/#comment-6161</link>
		<dc:creator>iopq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 11:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like PokerChamps' rakeback program
That's how it should be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like PokerChamps&#8217; rakeback program<br />
That&#8217;s how it should be</p>
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		<title>By: Royal Vegas Online Poker</title>
		<link>http://www.billrini.com/2005/05/18/designing-the-perfect-online-poker-room/#comment-4431</link>
		<dc:creator>Royal Vegas Online Poker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 09:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the Prima Poker Rooms allow you to minimise amd maximise the on screen chat. They also offer a mini screen version so you can have multiple table open at the same time and optimise your screen space. I play at 2 or 3 different Prima rooms, &lt;a href="http://www.royalvegasonlinepoker.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Royal Vegas Online Poker Room&lt;/a&gt; is where i spend most my time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the Prima Poker Rooms allow you to minimise amd maximise the on screen chat. They also offer a mini screen version so you can have multiple table open at the same time and optimise your screen space. I play at 2 or 3 different Prima rooms, <a href="http://www.royalvegasonlinepoker.com" rel="nofollow">Royal Vegas Online Poker Room</a> is where i spend most my time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ChezJ</title>
		<link>http://www.billrini.com/2005/05/18/designing-the-perfect-online-poker-room/#comment-3922</link>
		<dc:creator>ChezJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sites should provide the option to ELIMINATE the chat box which takes up tons of valuable screen real estate and provides almost no value. Chat should take place in a separate, resizable window with configurable fonts, not in a 0.5 inch high slot that is impossible to read live and twice as impossible to read when attempting to scrollback. This is my #1 pet peeve about all sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sites should provide the option to ELIMINATE the chat box which takes up tons of valuable screen real estate and provides almost no value. Chat should take place in a separate, resizable window with configurable fonts, not in a 0.5 inch high slot that is impossible to read live and twice as impossible to read when attempting to scrollback. This is my #1 pet peeve about all sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Human Head</title>
		<link>http://www.billrini.com/2005/05/18/designing-the-perfect-online-poker-room/#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>Human Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a really good post.  The seat reservation BS at Party is a big one, but I think the biggest thing is the issue of loyalty programs.  I will be more inclined to play at a site with a few software annoyances if they have a kickass loyalty program, and I don't just mean FPP's.

As this document progresses, one suggestion would be to rate the importance of each issue to you.  Or, organize each separate issue into numbered subheading or something and everyone could rate each issue--this would give a better idea of what most would like to see (at least as far as the WPBT goes :))

It's gold, Jerry.  Gold!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a really good post.  The seat reservation BS at Party is a big one, but I think the biggest thing is the issue of loyalty programs.  I will be more inclined to play at a site with a few software annoyances if they have a kickass loyalty program, and I don&#8217;t just mean FPP&#8217;s.</p>
<p>As this document progresses, one suggestion would be to rate the importance of each issue to you.  Or, organize each separate issue into numbered subheading or something and everyone could rate each issue&#8211;this would give a better idea of what most would like to see (at least as far as the WPBT goes :))</p>
<p>It&#8217;s gold, Jerry.  Gold!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Halverson</title>
		<link>http://www.billrini.com/2005/05/18/designing-the-perfect-online-poker-room/#comment-548</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Halverson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I would like in the lobby would be a better split of the games. Party almost has it right, but not quite and most sites have it totally wrong.

What would be good is to have it totally split up by game type (Limit, NL, PL), then BB, then num seats (or do BB, game type, # seats). Crypto is almost worse because they have multiple currencies. Gaming Club tried to fix it by breaking up the games based on BB size, but they lump limit and NL into the same screen which makes it really difficult to find because you can only sort on one field.

Also, make the damn buttons work. Party STILL has trouble with buttons needing to be clicked 3 times sometimes (yes, I know 1 of those is to bring it in focus so you don't do it by accident).

Mini-view. All sites should have it. UB and TGC have it right here. If I don't want avatars, there's a good chance I'll want a small table. Give me my desktop back! The whole thing is already client/server, just decouple the UI from the game engine. This is Computer Science 101. I know this would piss off some graphics designer, but the multitablers would love it (I know I would).

I like the concept of the loyalty program. This is similar to Poker Mountain's program IIRC. We just need a mainstream site to implement it and it would spread like crazy. I agree that the current bonus structure cannot last.

The lobby updates is a huge one too. I too hate thinking there's a spot on a table when in reality there's not. I've got to the point where I don't even look, I just join a waitlist and select it for 8 players (since I play full tables). Many times it will immediately give me a table.

On a related note, waiting lists should, you know, actually work. Full Tilt's are terrible as you have to join on a per table basis. Party pretty much works, although there are times it gives you a seat but you can't choose it. Crypto's sucks. Once you're at a table you cannot join a general (ie. "200NL with &gt; 8 players") list, you have to go on a table specific list.

I'm sure I can come up with more, but this is a great start! Hopefully somebody will learn from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I would like in the lobby would be a better split of the games. Party almost has it right, but not quite and most sites have it totally wrong.</p>
<p>What would be good is to have it totally split up by game type (Limit, NL, PL), then BB, then num seats (or do BB, game type, # seats). Crypto is almost worse because they have multiple currencies. Gaming Club tried to fix it by breaking up the games based on BB size, but they lump limit and NL into the same screen which makes it really difficult to find because you can only sort on one field.</p>
<p>Also, make the damn buttons work. Party STILL has trouble with buttons needing to be clicked 3 times sometimes (yes, I know 1 of those is to bring it in focus so you don&#8217;t do it by accident).</p>
<p>Mini-view. All sites should have it. UB and TGC have it right here. If I don&#8217;t want avatars, there&#8217;s a good chance I&#8217;ll want a small table. Give me my desktop back! The whole thing is already client/server, just decouple the UI from the game engine. This is Computer Science 101. I know this would piss off some graphics designer, but the multitablers would love it (I know I would).</p>
<p>I like the concept of the loyalty program. This is similar to Poker Mountain&#8217;s program IIRC. We just need a mainstream site to implement it and it would spread like crazy. I agree that the current bonus structure cannot last.</p>
<p>The lobby updates is a huge one too. I too hate thinking there&#8217;s a spot on a table when in reality there&#8217;s not. I&#8217;ve got to the point where I don&#8217;t even look, I just join a waitlist and select it for 8 players (since I play full tables). Many times it will immediately give me a table.</p>
<p>On a related note, waiting lists should, you know, actually work. Full Tilt&#8217;s are terrible as you have to join on a per table basis. Party pretty much works, although there are times it gives you a seat but you can&#8217;t choose it. Crypto&#8217;s sucks. Once you&#8217;re at a table you cannot join a general (ie. &#8220;200NL with > 8 players&#8221;) list, you have to go on a table specific list.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I can come up with more, but this is a great start! Hopefully somebody will learn from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Easycure</title>
		<link>http://www.billrini.com/2005/05/18/designing-the-perfect-online-poker-room/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>Easycure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post....It makes me want to leave work, go home and fire up some tables.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post&#8230;.It makes me want to leave work, go home and fire up some tables.</p>
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		<title>By: Drizztdj</title>
		<link>http://www.billrini.com/2005/05/18/designing-the-perfect-online-poker-room/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>Drizztdj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems a lot of those ideas are currently in use at different sites.  I wish someone had the insight and drive to COMBINE them.  Full Tilt has the right idea by combining B &#038; M players and Online players in the development and improvement of their cardroom.  

Throw in Bill's suggestion of a loyality program that makes it worth while to stick to one site and you'll have the next PartyPoker of online poker gaming.

Great post once again Bill :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems a lot of those ideas are currently in use at different sites.  I wish someone had the insight and drive to COMBINE them.  Full Tilt has the right idea by combining B &#038; M players and Online players in the development and improvement of their cardroom.  </p>
<p>Throw in Bill&#8217;s suggestion of a loyality program that makes it worth while to stick to one site and you&#8217;ll have the next PartyPoker of online poker gaming.</p>
<p>Great post once again Bill <img src='http://www.billrini.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: BuckwheatOne</title>
		<link>http://www.billrini.com/2005/05/18/designing-the-perfect-online-poker-room/#comment-551</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckwheatOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be great to be able to switch seats in a ring game with my whole stack rather than having to get up, get back into the room, and hope the seat I wanted is still there.  Even if it is, I'm back to the original buy-in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be great to be able to switch seats in a ring game with my whole stack rather than having to get up, get back into the room, and hope the seat I wanted is still there.  Even if it is, I&#8217;m back to the original buy-in.</p>
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		<title>By: Proto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Statistics popup windows should have different categories for different games.  Hold'em type stats don't do me much good in Omaha.  Add split pots, high pots, low pots won etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Statistics popup windows should have different categories for different games.  Hold&#8217;em type stats don&#8217;t do me much good in Omaha.  Add split pots, high pots, low pots won etc.</p>
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		<title>By: abulafia</title>
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		<dc:creator>abulafia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First time poster, longtime stalker....erm lurker I mean.

Interesting post, and its cool to think that someone at fulltilt might take on board some thoughtful feedback.

Resizeable windows. Its a hellovalot easier to multitable if I can control the size of each window.

Perhaps, in addition to customisable lobby search paramaters, it'd be possible to use a messaging client to give live alerts when a table matching your customised criterion became available. 

Several of the clients I use advertise themselves at me. Popups when I enter the site. Pop ups when I leave. Pop ups when I check out the promotions. Pop ups when I deposit. I don't use them any more. Quick note to the hired geeks from marketing. I'm already at your goddamn site. And I've probably a;lready decided to pay my share of rake. Relentless shilling makes me feel that you think I'm an idiot. 

Telling me I'm an idiot is a guaranteed way to make me keep my money to myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First time poster, longtime stalker&#8230;.erm lurker I mean.</p>
<p>Interesting post, and its cool to think that someone at fulltilt might take on board some thoughtful feedback.</p>
<p>Resizeable windows. Its a hellovalot easier to multitable if I can control the size of each window.</p>
<p>Perhaps, in addition to customisable lobby search paramaters, it&#8217;d be possible to use a messaging client to give live alerts when a table matching your customised criterion became available. </p>
<p>Several of the clients I use advertise themselves at me. Popups when I enter the site. Pop ups when I leave. Pop ups when I check out the promotions. Pop ups when I deposit. I don&#8217;t use them any more. Quick note to the hired geeks from marketing. I&#8217;m already at your goddamn site. And I&#8217;ve probably a;lready decided to pay my share of rake. Relentless shilling makes me feel that you think I&#8217;m an idiot. </p>
<p>Telling me I&#8217;m an idiot is a guaranteed way to make me keep my money to myself.</p>
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