Comments on: The Futility of Affiliate Programs for Poker Bloggers http://www.billrini.com/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/ Bill Rini's Poker Weblog Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:05:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Poker Nerws http://www.billrini.com/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-137191 Poker Nerws Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:54:55 +0000 http://www.billrini.com/index.php/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-137191 So I'm curious if your opinion has changed any since you originally wrote this post? So I’m curious if your opinion has changed any since you originally wrote this post?

]]> By: Lorne Fade http://www.billrini.com/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-121293 Lorne Fade Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:11:15 +0000 http://www.billrini.com/index.php/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-121293 If your not part of the 10% of the industry that is earning 90% of the profits then it is a very grueling industry to be a part of. However with the proper motivation and efforts you can make substantial income. If your not part of the 10% of the industry that is earning 90% of the profits then it is a very grueling industry to be a part of. However with the proper motivation and efforts you can make substantial income.

]]> By: affiliate programs http://www.billrini.com/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-18660 affiliate programs Thu, 04 May 2006 22:39:49 +0000 http://www.billrini.com/index.php/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-18660 Hello, There are two separate ingredients to living your dream by creating income with affiliate programs online. They are vital to your success both as a sponsor and as a downline member. Hello,
There are two separate ingredients to living your dream by creating income with affiliate programs online. They are vital to your success both as a sponsor and as a downline member.

]]> By: omaha hi low http://www.billrini.com/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-9783 omaha hi low Wed, 28 Dec 2005 04:20:13 +0000 http://www.billrini.com/index.php/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-9783 Bill , great blog the numbers seem a little high but if you really think about it the % seem right. Im wondering if cpa isnt the way to go on some sites. I started my site http://www.omahahilow.com well see what happens. thx Bill , great blog the numbers seem a little high but if you really think about it the % seem right. Im wondering if cpa isnt the way to go on some sites. I started my site http://www.omahahilow.com well see what happens. thx

]]> By: Mike Smith http://www.billrini.com/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-8209 Mike Smith Thu, 03 Nov 2005 07:00:09 +0000 http://www.billrini.com/index.php/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-8209 Bill, great blog and great discusion. I've recently started a site about 3 months ago www.pokerbonuscode.net I've had a ton of click thrus but almost no conversions. I mean out of 5000+ visits a month I get maybe 5-10 sign ups seems really low to me. Has anyone tried pay per click advertising, I'm guessing it's just not worth it but if anyone has had success with it pleae let me know. You can email me @ info@pokerbonuscode.net Also if anyone has any other creative ideas to promote a website or is interesting in doing some co-op advertising please let me know Thanks, and great blog Bill, great blog and great discusion. I’ve recently started a site about 3 months ago http://www.pokerbonuscode.net I’ve had a ton of click thrus but almost no conversions. I mean out of 5000+ visits a month I get maybe 5-10 sign ups seems really low to me. Has anyone tried pay per click advertising, I’m guessing it’s just not worth it but if anyone has had success with it pleae let me know. You can email me @ info@pokerbonuscode.net Also if anyone has any other creative ideas to promote a website or is interesting in doing some co-op advertising please let me know

Thanks, and great blog

]]> By: moe http://www.billrini.com/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-8150 moe Tue, 01 Nov 2005 06:18:18 +0000 http://www.billrini.com/index.php/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-8150 I am in the same catagory as Pete. Not a blogger (yet) but generating some income from regular pages on the web related to poker. My content is mostly standard strategy and basic information. I have a couple of simple games like video poker that I give away for free with banners and that helps. I arrived at this page while searching for information to compare the stats from one of the sites that I am promoting. While my original programs were all CPA (single payment for each raeal player) I have been trying out Revenue share but I was disappointed witht the results. The 40% that Pete mentions along with the 20/550 real player conversion sound much more realistic than what I am currently getting so I will probably switch or convert my existing CPA accounts to Rev Share. I picked CPa in the beginning because I expected it to generate some quick cash which I desparately needed but I believe that the rev share is more profitable in the long run. Revenue share is also a much more reliable long term option since new players can dry up and then the CPA payments will plummet. I have also started to promote backgammon which is not nearly as hot as poker but still generates a few $$ a month. I also had a Casino program but I dropped it eventually because the conversion rates are very low and they are basically just robbing the players as there is no chance for anyone to win in thelong term with slots, blackjack etc.. whereas, poker and backgammon, a skilled player can make a profit so I feel much better about promoting such sites. There is money in affiliate programs and the sites do pay. I would say to promote more than a single site (I pick 3) so that to have something to compare, and if one is the clear winner, give that one the best spots I am in the same catagory as Pete. Not a blogger (yet) but generating some income from regular pages on the web related to poker. My content is mostly standard strategy and basic information. I have a couple of simple games like video poker that I give away for free with banners and that helps. I arrived at this page while searching for information to compare the stats from one of the sites that I am promoting. While my original programs were all CPA (single payment for each raeal player) I have been trying out Revenue share but I was disappointed witht the results. The 40% that Pete mentions along with the 20/550 real player conversion sound much more realistic than what I am currently getting so I will probably switch or convert my existing CPA accounts to Rev Share. I picked CPa in the beginning because I expected it to generate some quick cash which I desparately needed but I believe that the rev share is more profitable in the long run. Revenue share is also a much more reliable long term option since new players can dry up and then the CPA payments will plummet. I have also started to promote backgammon which is not nearly as hot as poker but still generates a few $$ a month. I also had a Casino program but I dropped it eventually because the conversion rates are very low and they are basically just robbing the players as there is no chance for anyone to win in thelong term with slots, blackjack etc.. whereas, poker and backgammon, a skilled player can make a profit so I feel much better about promoting such sites. There is money in affiliate programs and the sites do pay. I would say to promote more than a single site (I pick 3) so that to have something to compare, and if one is the clear winner, give that one the best spots

]]> By: Paul http://www.billrini.com/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-6348 Paul Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:04:40 +0000 http://www.billrini.com/index.php/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-6348 Well people I'm not a blogger but am a poker affiliate at a reasonably new poker site. This is only my fourth month promoting poker and I earned $46.00, $340.00, $605.00 in the first 3 that are completed. And all traffic is via search engine clicks only. During this time I've had approx. 1500 clicks resulting in approx. 550 signed up members (not paid just registered after downloading). Of those 21 have opened a paid account and 25 redeposits. My numbers are a bit better probably because 1) they do not deduct bonuses from my earnings which is nice, 2) I get 40% of rake not 20%, and finally 3) I can and do earn money from free players who have won money in freerolls that they sponsor. And I would only ever chose the residual from rake payment option cause if you ever do hit that big time player he could easily make you a thousand a month plus. Wishfull thinking huh.... But I am extremely satisfied with the progress to date so am currently building new promotional pages on a new site for it. As for reading your results guess I won't ever consider advertising on poker blogs..lol Anyways all I'm trying to say is don't give up on being a poker affiliate cause there is money there. Well people I’m not a blogger but am a poker affiliate at a reasonably new poker site. This is only my fourth month promoting poker and I earned $46.00, $340.00, $605.00 in the first 3 that are completed. And all traffic is via search engine clicks only.

During this time I’ve had approx. 1500 clicks resulting in approx. 550 signed up members (not paid just registered after downloading). Of those 21 have opened a paid account and 25 redeposits. My numbers are a bit better probably because 1) they do not deduct bonuses from my earnings which is nice, 2) I get 40% of rake not 20%, and finally 3) I can and do earn money from free players who have won money in freerolls that they sponsor.

And I would only ever chose the residual from rake payment option cause if you ever do hit that big time player he could easily make you a thousand a month plus. Wishfull thinking huh….

But I am extremely satisfied with the progress to date so am currently building new promotional pages on a new site for it. As for reading your results guess I won’t ever consider advertising on poker blogs..lol

Anyways all I’m trying to say is don’t give up on being a poker affiliate cause there is money there.

]]> By: Bill http://www.billrini.com/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-4227 Bill Sat, 30 Jul 2005 10:40:52 +0000 http://www.billrini.com/index.php/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-4227 The only hint I give is that it's likely affiliate programs are not it. Many sites with good traffic make money on non-affiliate deals. Advertising, sponsorship, etc. are all good ways to monetize traffic. The only hint I give is that it’s likely affiliate programs are not it. Many sites with good traffic make money on non-affiliate deals. Advertising, sponsorship, etc. are all good ways to monetize traffic.

]]> By: Wild Bill http://www.billrini.com/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-4183 Wild Bill Sat, 30 Jul 2005 01:20:36 +0000 http://www.billrini.com/index.php/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-4183 you hint at the fact that there are other ways to make money poker blogging than affiliate deals...care to elaborate on this? also i just started up a poker blog at http://grindblog.blogspot.com that is detailing my advertures of turning 'pro' recently. i have heard that it may be possible to become a part of a network of blogs you have or are a part of? sorry but didn't know another way to contact you...thanks Wild Bill wfdean@hotmail.com you hint at the fact that there are other ways to make money poker blogging than affiliate deals…care to elaborate on this?

also i just started up a poker blog at http://grindblog.blogspot.com that is detailing my advertures of turning ‘pro’ recently. i have heard that it may be possible to become a part of a network of blogs you have or are a part of?

sorry but didn’t know another way to contact you…thanks

Wild Bill

wfdean@hotmail.com

]]> By: Bill http://www.billrini.com/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-3089 Bill Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:14:22 +0000 http://www.billrini.com/index.php/2005/06/23/the-futility-of-affiliate-programs-for-poker-bloggers/#comment-3089 Personally, I prefer the rake. Personally, I prefer the rake.

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