Your assertion is patently false and can be proved to false. Several players have kept massive hand history databases and again and again and again they all show:

1. The distribution of starting hands is within statistical norms
2. That you flop a full house, straight, pair, etc all within statistical norms

Not a single university, independent researcher, or player has discovered hands being dealt that would indicate anything more than normal statistical variance.

If you wish to claim otherwise then you’re going to need to come with something better than the old “we all know” argument. Put up or shut up :-) No more opinions, please.

Bill

kind regards Luke

You’re making an argument against something that has not been claimed. Nobody said that because the card room deals more hands per hour that the bad beats happen with more frequency than the statistical norm. The argument is that if you get dealt 20 hands an hour in a normal card room and 40 hands per hour in an online card room, on average, in one hour you will see twice the number of bad beats than you would in a regular card room because you saw twice as many hands.

When you start opening up 2, 3, 4, 10 tables you just magnify the effect.

Go to bed, get some rest and see if that makes sense.

please let me just work something out im sure if its wrong i will be corrected
just use easy fig. to get basic concept across

ONLINE WORLD
now lets say 10,000 tables so thats 10,000 deals a minute
so oer the cousre of and hour thats 600,000 hands you “have played”

REAL WORLD
now on 1 table you have been dealt around 60

so put in place those odds of the fullhouse 1000-1 in the online poker world thats just happened 600 times in the last hour so there for you have a 16% chance of that happing on your tabble in that hour.

now with that being said if you where only playing 1 deck and 1 hand per minute the you would still have to wait another 16 hours for that same result .. that is based on on hand per min which will not be maintained ao therefor looking aroung 22 hours play. to possibley see that flopped fullhouse…

well i hope i got my point across ..and its late so i hope it made sense

Luke

You should be a pleasure to speak with. As you can see from not only my numerous responses in this thread but in many, many threads on the same subject, I do respond. I have seven responses in this thread alone. Am I too busy to respond to every moron who writes? Yes but in your case I’ll make an exception. Nine times out of ten, much like in your case, they offer nothing I either haven’t already addressed or you bring no new information to the table.

If you had something new, I would be more inclined to take the time to respond. Instead, you call me a chump, a cheat, make veiled threats (and I will be at the WSOP so come on by and see me) and blah, blah, blah me to death because you have nothing of any importance to say. I’m sure in your little world, you’re some alpha-male type who thinks that making threats and calling people names is the same as intelligent debate but you’ve done nothing to add to this conversation.

Just because you can’t beat online poker doesn’t mean it’s rigged. :-)

very good posting chump,too bad only you,me, and millions of others know it.

Not sure where you learned to string together thoughts but you need some work here. Are you saying that millions of people know online poker is rigged? Is that the thought you were trying to get across?

Not Bill,he would rather call us idiots and keep his pockets filled.

Well, I would prefer to just take your money but you have control over whether I call you an idiot by what comes out of your mouth.

Just like he only posts half of your responses and leaves out what he wants,

Actually, not true at all and I guess the beauty of this is that you would have no way of knowing if I did or didn’t delete comments on my blog yet you make a definitive statement based on something you know nothing about. Just like online poker :-) I do delete some posts. I delete posts when some moron decides that he’s going to cut and paste the same comment on 50 threads. I delete posts that are clearly intended to promote some product or website that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. I delete spam from bots advertising drugs to cure your erectile dysfunction problems or promise to grow new hair. But, I do not delete any comment that falls outside of the above group. You can read all my posts and all my threads and it should be pretty obvious that I don’t go around picking and choosing which comments do and don’t show up on my blog. Would I even allow your comment, let alone respond to it, if that were what I was doing?

he and the sites are cheats from the word go.

So now I’m a cheat too? It’s not enough that online poker is rigged, I’m somehow cheating as well? Nice.

you notice he only responds to what he wants to.

Yes, that’s one of the perks I enjoy by running my own blog and having free will. I can choose to respond to your absurdity, let it speak for itself, or ignore it completely. That’s my choice!!! I guess you fail to see the absurdity of your own argument. First, you claim that I carefully edit what comments appear on this blog, then you leave a comment on the blog. Do you see the disconnect? If your assumption was that I would never post your comment, then what good was it for you to even leave it? Is your time of such little value that you go around the internet leaving comments you suspect will be deleted?

Oh well, obviously I didn’t delete it because people such as yourself do more to harm your point of view than I ever could. People see the erratic and illogical thought process and can make a decision whether to believe what you have to say.

Im sure he will tell you he is far to busy,,yea with the cover up of online poker being rigged.

Oh Snap! You got me. Yes, I’m sitting in this ivory tower working on the world-wide cover up of online poker being rigged. I sit around with Dr. Evil, Hitler, and Charlie Manson and we plot our world domination. Either that or I have a real job and think I’ve covered this topic to such a degree that the only people I feel are worthy of responding to are people who haven’t re-hashed an accusation I’ve already addressed in other postings, comments, or threads. You pick which version you want to believe.

Bill you welcomed at my table anytime for a nice long talk live where you cant run and hide.

Listen babe, I don’t run and hide. I’m the one with a top weblog. I’m the one with my picture on my website. I’m the one who makes no secret of who I am or where people can find me. You think I’m going to run and hide from you? The only thing I might do is get up and walk away because if I wanted to listen to conspiracy theories I would go down to the Venice Boardwalk and listen to the crazy guy on the pier telling people about the coming alien invasion.

Im at the world series every year so come on down.

Sure, send me a photo so I know what you look like and can find you.

most of all the big players in chicago are there so come and enlighten us with the bullshit you like to throw around at unsuspecting newcomers to poker.

Actually, based on some of the emails I get, many of my readers are top professional players. I’ve had more than a few pros say “Oh, you’re that guy who wrote about . . .” If I was pure bullshit I think I would get called on it by somebody more reputable than yourself.

Love and Kisses,

Bill