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	<title>Comments on: No Passport?  No Problem(o)</title>
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		<title>By: Jairo</title>
		<link>http://www.billrini.com/2007/01/28/no-passport-no-problemo/#comment-121578</link>
		<dc:creator>Jairo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok... you were talking about Gibraltar border I didn't notice at the post. So you are right</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230; you were talking about Gibraltar border I didn&#8217;t notice at the post. So you are right</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.billrini.com/2007/01/28/no-passport-no-problemo/#comment-121558</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jairo,

I have a legal visa (work) for Gib but there is a passport control office on both sides of the boarder between Spain and Gib.  When I go out I have to show a passport and when I return I have to show a passport.  Sometimes they'll accept a residence card but when the Spanish border control guys feel a little pissy they'll give you a hard time about not having a passport so it's safer just to carry the passport.

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jairo,</p>
<p>I have a legal visa (work) for Gib but there is a passport control office on both sides of the boarder between Spain and Gib.  When I go out I have to show a passport and when I return I have to show a passport.  Sometimes they&#8217;ll accept a residence card but when the Spanish border control guys feel a little pissy they&#8217;ll give you a hard time about not having a passport so it&#8217;s safer just to carry the passport.</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Jairo</title>
		<link>http://www.billrini.com/2007/01/28/no-passport-no-problemo/#comment-121490</link>
		<dc:creator>Jairo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 10:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill. Check this out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement

The 1985 Schengen Agreement is an agreement among European states which allows for the abolition of systematic border controls between the participating countries.

When you enter a Schengen country as a foreigner you are supossed to do it with a legal visa. Therefore, you can travel within those countries without documents. I think what happened to you is that you had to pass a security control, as it could be at any street, so they asked for your ID or whatever.

UK is not a Schengen country so Spain, in the past, used that to closed the Gibraltar border to put pressure on British government... but that another issue: policy.

All this as I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill. Check this out.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement</a></p>
<p>The 1985 Schengen Agreement is an agreement among European states which allows for the abolition of systematic border controls between the participating countries.</p>
<p>When you enter a Schengen country as a foreigner you are supossed to do it with a legal visa. Therefore, you can travel within those countries without documents. I think what happened to you is that you had to pass a security control, as it could be at any street, so they asked for your ID or whatever.</p>
<p>UK is not a Schengen country so Spain, in the past, used that to closed the Gibraltar border to put pressure on British government&#8230; but that another issue: policy.</p>
<p>All this as I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.billrini.com/2007/01/28/no-passport-no-problemo/#comment-121251</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He called your bluff?  Hmmmm.  You've got to work on that poker face Bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He called your bluff?  Hmmmm.  You&#8217;ve got to work on that poker face Bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.billrini.com/2007/01/28/no-passport-no-problemo/#comment-121106</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jario,

Yes, for EU citizens that would be correct.  I am a US citizen residing in the EU though which means I still have to show a passport to cross from one EU country to another.  Also, I think the "identification is not necessary" is not quite accurate.  You still need to show a residency card.  You can't just show up at London Heathrow and say that you live in the EU so you aren't required to have any form of identification :-)

Also, the Spain/Gibraltar relationship is a tricky one.  Spain often intentionally slows up boarder crossings as a way to passively/aggressively respond to it's resentment over the fact Gibraltar doesn't want to be a part of Spain.  It wasn't too long ago that Spain completely sealed Gibraltar's boarder and the only way in or out of here was via sea or air.

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jario,</p>
<p>Yes, for EU citizens that would be correct.  I am a US citizen residing in the EU though which means I still have to show a passport to cross from one EU country to another.  Also, I think the &#8220;identification is not necessary&#8221; is not quite accurate.  You still need to show a residency card.  You can&#8217;t just show up at London Heathrow and say that you live in the EU so you aren&#8217;t required to have any form of identification <img src='http://www.billrini.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also, the Spain/Gibraltar relationship is a tricky one.  Spain often intentionally slows up boarder crossings as a way to passively/aggressively respond to it&#8217;s resentment over the fact Gibraltar doesn&#8217;t want to be a part of Spain.  It wasn&#8217;t too long ago that Spain completely sealed Gibraltar&#8217;s boarder and the only way in or out of here was via sea or air.</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Jairo</title>
		<link>http://www.billrini.com/2007/01/28/no-passport-no-problemo/#comment-120937</link>
		<dc:creator>Jairo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill. I'm from Spain. You probably don't know that you can travel within the European Union countries and identification is not necessary, as when you travel from New York to Pennsylvania.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill. I&#8217;m from Spain. You probably don&#8217;t know that you can travel within the European Union countries and identification is not necessary, as when you travel from New York to Pennsylvania.</p>
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