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3912642045 467b8a477a This is Starting to Get Out of Control

If you’ve been following the poker forums or poker news websites you’ve probably been as shocked as everyone else with these super nosebleed swings that have been going on recently. Tom “Durrr” Dwan drops $5 million in a month. Next Isildur1 drops $5 million in a single 24 hour period. What’s next? Is someone going to dump $5 million in one hand?

On 2+2 they’ve been debating how many of these players actually have the proper bankroll to be playing these levels. With the exception of a few players like Ivey, most probably do not though there’s no telling what kind of staking arrangements people have or how much they’ve got behind.

But, I think the more interesting thing is whether or not playing these stakes even makes sense for many of these players. I mean, after a certain point your game selection is almost non-existent. I mean, how many people can actually sit down with you at a $500/$1000 PLO game? If you have to constantly sit around playing people like Phil Ivey, Tom Dwan, Patrik Antonius, Ziigmund, and Isildur1 you’re going to have wild swings like we’re seeing now.

All of these players are aggressive, tough players. It’s not like the Big Game in Bobby’s Room where Doyle Brunson, Phil Ivey, Howard Lederer, Jennifer Harman, and Todd Brunson sit around pushing chips back and forth waiting for some monied up tourist to come along who wants to try to beat the best of the best.

These guys are getting into massive pots against each other. They’re taking huge risks against opponents they probably have a minimal edge over (over the long run – on any particular night anything goes). It’s turned into a show. One begins to wonder if they do it because they think it’s +EV or if they do it because they’re action junkies and the only thing that can get their blood flowing is chillingly large pots.

Other very skilled players don’t seem to have the same action-itch. Daniel Negreanu could arguably play at these levels and for awhile he was somewhat well known for laying down challenges but so far he hasn’t felt a need to jump into the million dollar swing club. And there are many more players who have both the bankroll and the skill to be playing at these levels but prefer to skip the limelight and grind away at more sane levels.

Is it ego? Is it some degenerate gene that drives them to take ever-increasing risks? Are they addicted to the fame and glory of seeing their name in forums and on poker news sites?

Or is it that after a certain point you can’t possibly win huge amounts without taking huge gambles? Isn’t this what the whole mortgage market meltdown was about. When you ran out of safe and sane investments you started lending money to anybody who had a pulse.

Huge risks may have huge rewards but they’re still huge risks. How many minus $5 million months can someone like Dwan stomach? How many $5 million single day hits can any of these players swallow?

And let’s say that Dwan has another bad month next month and he’s wiped out. Sure, Ivey or even Full Tilt might cover him for a few hundred grand or maybe a million to get him back on his feet but they’re not stupid either. They would want to see him grinding it back to pay them off not taking million dollar coin flips on their investment.

So what does that tell you? That playing the slow and steady road is the more sure path. Every one of these nose-bleed players can crush smaller limit games. In fact, one might argue that they might even make more crushing the smaller limits than playing the best of the best where their edge is the smallest.

While there might be some crowing rights in beating Phil Ivey or dominating some of the best players in the world there are surely less risky ways to do it. The Dwan Challenge is certainly a good example of capping the downside while still establishing who gets to claim to be the big dog.

Then again, maybe the Ivey’s, Dwan’s and such read something like this from someone who has never been in their shoes or at their level and thinks I have no idea what I’m talking about. But almost all of these nose-bleed heroes acts as a poker ambassador via their online poker room sponsorships so they should be promoting proper bankroll management, staying within your limits, and other principles of playing smart poker.

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The Game is Getting Tighter

by Bill Rini on November 16, 2009

in Online Poker, Poker, Poker News, Popular

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Bluff Europe recently ran an article asking if there was a poker slowdown going on in the UK. While I commend them on being one of the first mainstream outlets to acknowledge that nearly every public poker site is reporting poor numbers, I think they arrive at the wrong conclusion.

Poker may very well be slowing in growth in the UK but the data in their article would seem to suggest that there’s a serious contraction going on in the market. It’s the same contraction I noted awhile back when I pointed out that things aren’t as rosy in the poker industry as sites like Poker Site Scout often portray them to be (or as people who read PSS analyze the numbers and report them to be).

Party posts disappointing numbers
888 posts disappointing numbers
Playtech (iPoker) posts disappointing numbers
Svenska Spel (a monopoly!!!) posts disappointing numbers

Noticing a trend here?

Most telling part of the article was the comment from the always-pleasant John Shepherd.

However, many are saying you should not panic and that by 2012 the industry is expected to reach $6.2bn for a 12% compound annual growth over four years. PartyGaming’s John Shepherd also claims that these figures do not take into account PokerStars and Full Tilt Poker

Exactly!

The reason that it might look like there’s a slowdown in poker in the UK is because players are moving from sites like William Hill to sites like PokerStars and Full Tilt Poker. That’s why PSS shows the market expanding while individual sites that have to report quarterly earnings keep posting soft numbers.

Of course, like I said, the UK market could be weakening but unless any of the poker rooms is going to turn over their player numbers you can’t see it from the outside looking in. You don’t know how much of Stars’ growth has come at the expense of 888 in the UK and how much of it has come from expansion in other markets.

But the mere fact that both geographically diversified poker rooms are performing poorly as well as the UK-centric ones leads me to believe that contraction is the more likely culprit.

Also of note was a comment made by gaming analyst at Collins Stewart, Paul Leyland:

“The problem you face with poker, as opposed to other forms of gambling, is that you need volume to make the model work. You can’t just focus on high rollers, as you might with a sports book or a casino. You have to bring volume in to supply your higher rollers with people to play.

“What that does is drive up your costs and reduce your yields because you have to incentivise people to sign up. This favours operators who already have customers to whom they can cross-sell, like a William Hill, for example. They can acquire new poker players at a lower cost.”

First part of the comment is really dead on. So many of the skins and the smaller rooms focus on high-rollers. It’s in their blood from being sports books or casinos first and poker rooms second. They really don’t fully understand the whole poker ecosystem model.

That’s why they love rakeback and are the ones who kicked off the rakeback wars offering obscene amounts of rakeback which threatened the entire skin concept. They wanted to keep the high rollers. They lack the resources to go after recreational and novice poker players.

Network operators love selling their skins to casinos and sports books because of this huge cross-sell potential but what they don’t realize is that these guys don’t know how to attract normal poker players. Sure, when they first start cross selling plenty of fish get dumped in the pond but a year or two down the road when they’ve blown their load they go to what they know which is to preserve their high rollers.

That’s one of the reasons why I’ve always said rakeback is the network operators problem. They choose who they can let on the network and if you can’t present a credible business plan that isn’t just about cross selling your casino and sports book customers you’re going to eventually become a burden on the ecosystem.

However the second part of what Leyland says I’m not so much in agreement with. When he says that you can just cross sell and you don’t need to incentivize people to play poker I think he’s making the same mistake.

Sure you might get the completely clueless to sign up with no bonus incentive but even a casual sports bettor is going to know that most poker rooms (like most sports books) offer signup offers. For instance, I just went to William Hill’s poker site and they’re offering 100% up to $600. Sounds pretty industry standard to me. Where’s the supposed cost savings? Maybe they don’t offer it to existing customers which all but drives anybody but the most lazy to find a better deal.

Granted, cross selling is always less expensive that acquiring new customers but I think Mr. Leyland might have oversold the benefit here. At least how he’s quoted in the article makes it sound like you can treat your cross over’s like dopes and they’ll just go with it.

Anyway, I think the bottom line here is that what we’re seeing is industry contraction. Many of the smaller rooms won’t be around in a year or two. Players are flowing upstream to the liquidity and anybody who thinks they can run poker as a side business to their main cash cow is going to get squeezed because the market is going to get too competitive.

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Is Online Poker Really Doing Well?

by Bill Rini on September 16, 2009

in Online Poker, Poker, Popular

2380439623 6cc387d64c Is Online Poker Really Doing Well?

Nearly every week I read Poker Scout’s industry analysis and they triumph more and more growth. This month was better than last month and year over year the industry is growing at an amazing pace . . . but is it?

One of the big disadvantages we have in viewing the overall poker market is that every company that was publicly listed left the US market leaving only private companies competing for the American player base. So, we end up missing some very key data points when we are on the outside looking in. For instance, how much of the player growth is coming from the US market vs. international markets?

Nearly all the European operators are reporting very disappointing numbers in their poker products while Poker Scout claims the industry continues to expand.

PartyGaming reported overall revenues across all of their products was down 6.5%

CEO Jim Ryan attributed the drop to two key factors: the economy and the tough competition in the online poker market.

888 has seen poker revenue drop 35% in the first half of 2009. 888 attributes the decline to currency movements and the overall economic downturn.

I could keep on posting disappointing financial results from various poker sites but let’s just assume that most of the publicly traded companies where we can get a peek into their performance are reporting poor numbers. The only exception seems to be iPoker which is currently the third largest poker site and the largest poker network.

So, what exactly am I saying? Well, there are several different KPI’s (key performance indicators) that you can measure a poker room on. The one that Poker Scout and many in the industry focus on is the number of active players as counted by Poker Scout. But what does that really tell us about those players? Nothing. All of those players could be sitting at micro-limit tables folding every hand and never seeing a flop (thus no rake collected).

In fact, sites that run bad beat jackpots that have grown very large know this phenomenon well when they see their overall player numbers jump through the roof but revenues stay either flat or fall because everyone is jumping down to the lowest limit tables and playing as many tables as possible to increase their chances of winning the bad beat jackpot. Players have no incentive to play hands that won’t qualify for the bad beat jackpot so the number of raked hands (another KPI) and rake per raked hand (another KPI) falls.

Another important KPI to measure is your customer lifetime value (LTV). Your LTV, in theory, should be lower than your cost to acquire each customer (Cost of Acquisition – COA). That should make perfect sense to people. You can’t spend $100 to acquire a customer that only yields $50 in revenue. Or can you?

So here’s the part where I have my doubts about the online poker market being as healthy as sites like Poker Scout claim. It’s a well known secret within the industry that some of the companies still operating in the US are paying more to acquire European, LatAm, and Asian customers than the average LTV for a player in that market. They’re using the huge US LTV’s to finance the LTV/CoA gap in Europe and elsewhere.

Way back in the day, before anyone could ever imagine the crash of the dotcom bubble an industry colleague Rob Tercek who ran Sony’s online division told a panel “I could stand out on Hollywood Blvd and hand out hundred dollar bills and that would make me very popular. Unfortunately, it’s not much of a business model.” Of course, he was talking about all of the companies in the online entertainment space who were generating little or no revenue and were funding all of their projects with investor money. What they were doing was buying customers with little regard as to whether or not they could ever recover their costs.

Today things are a little different than they were during the dotcom glory days. I think there’s actually a strategy to overpaying for customers. More and more smaller poker rooms are finding themselves unable to compete in markets they previously owned. The US facing poker rooms are coming in and buying up all of the media and dangling juicy carrots in front of the affiliates in those markets. The smaller poker rooms who used to enjoy a comfortable position in that market are now in the position of having to pay more than the LTV of the customer or get out of the way.

That’s why you hear people like Party’s Jim Ryan constantly telling investors about the “tough competition” in the poker market as the reason for the declining revenues despite the fact that Poker Scout is reporting massive industry growth.

So how do you make money buying high and selling low? Just like Walmart. You squeeze the competition out of the market and then when you own that market you can change the value proposition to something allowing you to make a profit. In other words, it’s better to go in and shock and awe your competition into surrendering now incurring losses than to try to beat them over a longer period while turning a profit. If you can gain an insurmountable lead today the net cost of getting and maintaining that lead will be lower than fighting a protracted battle.

As an example, let’s say you are the leading poker room in Fantasy Land. You have a great brand in Fantasy Land and you’ve enjoyed several years of very minor competition. Suddenly a big US facing poker room comes to Fantasy Land and starts pumping money into all the media outlets. They fill the schedule with branded poker shows, put big splashy ads in all the relevant magazines, and offer your affiliates special deals that net them far more than you can afford to pay. They might even start raiding your best staff offering them substantial pay increases to jump ship. What are you going to do? They’re using the hundreds of millions they’re making in the US to fund the battle while you’re paying for it out of the profits you can make in only your market.

And as they eat more and more into your player base, your player numbers, and your profitability you eventually have to concede you can’t compete with them in a war of attrition. You can’t match their media spending. You can’t match their affiliate payouts.

Many rooms react to this threat by trying to hold onto their highest raking players. They invest everything into special rakeback or sponsorship deals. But this is just delaying the inevitable. Because they’re not marketing to new players and while they might be lengthening the attrition rate of some players the lack of new players will eventually catch up to them and even getting a huge rakeback deal or being sponsored won’t compensate players for the lack of fish.

Eventually the poker room concedes the market to the US facing poker site as it licks its wounds and tries to go after some other market that hasn’t caught the eye of the US poker rooms yet.

And that’s exactly the story the Poker Scout numbers tell us. The big keep getting bigger and the small get smaller. But let’s not assume that bigger means more profitable. Let’s not assume that the value of a US customer is the same as someone from Belarus. Rather than fixating over how quickly the number of players is increasing we should also look at where that growth is coming from and what value it has. That’s a far more accurate way to measure the health of the poker industry.

As I wrote in the post When is a Met Guarantee Still an Overlay? things are not always what they seem in the poker world. When you dig past the top layer of data you often come to a conclusion that is directly opposed to what the top level data told you.

Right now despite the rosy picture being painted by Poker Scout the market is tougher than it has ever been. More and more you’re going to see smaller online poker rooms give up. Even today, many are only scraping by.

You’re going to see companies like Party and 888 investing heavily in their casino and other non-poker businesses where many US facing companies have no presence. Since they can’t fight he battle head-on they’re going to pick their spots more carefully and try to avoid direct confrontations.

That might all sound a bit doom and gloomy but it’s not necessarily a bad thing. Eliminating the fly-by-night poker rooms and spammers is a good thing. It might also be good because hopefully it will inspire some innovative thinking. No longer will poker rooms be able to sit back and follow the ABC model to profits. If they want to have any hope of surviving they’re going to need to look under new rocks to find customers. They’re going to need to figure out more cost efficient ways of reaching out to players rather than relying on affiliates and cookie-cutter promotions. In other words, they’re actually going to have to fight for your business and that’s not a bad thing.

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8 Unique Ways To Lose Money In Texas Hold’em by Greg Walker

June 15, 2009 Online Poker

We’ve all been thrashed with the ever popular “10 tips for winning something” and “5 tricks for becoming a better something else” at some point or another by now. These articles and guides are all well and good, but at the end of the day it’s a case of seeing the same Poker information in [...]

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Why Affiliates Will Always Trump Online Poker Rooms

May 5, 2009 Bonus Whoring

Before I got into the online poker industry I was always amazed at how much money poker rooms threw at affiliates. I thought they were stupid because most of the sites that were promoting them would have been happy to take a flat CPM deal if some site hadn’t been dumb enough to offer [...]

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The Online Poker Industry’s Love Hate Relationship With Rakeback

April 20, 2009 Bonus Whoring

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There’s probably no single topic that divides the online poker industry more than rakeback [what is rakeback?].  Seriously, in many companies rakeback is a dirty word.  At one company I know it’s jokingly referred to as “The Unmentionable” by the poker staff because to [...]

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Five Ways to Improve Your Poker and Crush the Competition

March 23, 2009 Online Poker

A lot of people ask me what the best way to improve their poker game is and for many of them it would be if they quit playing poker.  But there’s another group of people who may be decent poker players but they feel like they’re stagnating.  They don’t feel like they’re improving.
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Crazy Rigtards

March 14, 2009 Is Online Poker Rigged?

Because of my Online Poker is Rigged parody post as well as the many posts I’ve done on why online poker is not rigged I get a lot of heat from rigtards.  Rigtard is a name I ran across on 2+2 that is used to describe the constant stream of ZOMG ONLINE POKER IZ SO [...]

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Online Poker Rooms Getting Stupid About Sponsorships

January 25, 2009 Online Poker

I was reading the other day about how PokerStars has banned its players from playing on Poker After Dark. I guess the argument goes that outside of the US Full Tilt Poker is all over this program and even markets it in some countries as a Full Tilt Poker production. Well, good for [...]

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