Proof That Online Poker Is Rigged!

Posted by Bill @ 9:55 pm

One can hardly read any poker forum without running across individuals claiming that this or that site is rigged. Usually they are humiliated with the forum “experts” rudely telling them that the reason they’re losing is because they aren’t good poker players. I’m sad to say that I used to be one of those “experts.” I was one of the doubters until I actually caught one site cheating.

If you view the image below it looks like a normal hand being played (certain information has been dedacted to protect the innocent).

Normal poker hand

It looks normal unless you really examine the photo. Using some highly classified vector digital imaging software from the CIA I picked up on eBay for $50, I caught the dealer dealing off the bottom of the deck. I was as shocked as anyone but it all made sense once I thought about it. Notice in the picture above how they put that little box in front of the players sitting to the right and left of the dealer so as to obstruct their view. Players sitting that close would normally catch a dishonest dealer but “conveniently” the software blocks their view. Coincidence? Hardly!

Bottom Dealing

But that wasn’t the only cheating I caught. Notice the player to the right of the dealer in Seat 1. Notice anything out of place? Neither did I at first. But again, I used my imaging software to get a close up and guess what I see?

Up the sleeve

He’s got a card hidden up his sleeve! I guess it should have been obvious after his fourth pocket aces in a row.

So now I have proof that online poker is rigged and if anybody tries to tell you differently, they’re in on it!

Also check out:

Play Poker Like the Chemos
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Poker 404 Error Pages
Seeing The World Through The Eyes of a Fish

On a more serious note:

Why Online Poker Is Not Rigged

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COMMENTS / 206 COMMENTS

Funniest Use…

…of Party Poker screenshots so far for the month of December here….

The Fat Guy added these pithy words on Dec 05 04 at 2:18 pm

Week in review for 01.09.05

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Las Vegas and Poker Blog added these pithy words on Jan 09 05 at 10:43 pm

Proof the Online Poker is rigged!

Documented evidence of the fact from Bill’s Blog :-)…

Ewan's Corner added these pithy words on Jan 28 05 at 6:29 am

HAHAH! That’s great!

Chris Halverson added these pithy words on Dec 01 04 at 8:35 am

OMG! I’m ROFL. Post of the month, post of the month!

Felicia added these pithy words on Dec 01 04 at 8:50 am

Awesome!

Pauly added these pithy words on Dec 01 04 at 12:01 pm

lol, well done.

IGGY added these pithy words on Dec 01 04 at 12:22 pm

We knew the truth was out there…excellent detective work!! LOL

April added these pithy words on Dec 02 04 at 9:12 pm

Did you notice how that blonde guy ALWAYS sits next to the dealer too? A little coincidence? I think not.

Heafy added these pithy words on Dec 02 04 at 9:51 pm

It’s fantastic!!!! my chin still hurts from when my jaw dropped like a rock to the table…

freckles added these pithy words on Dec 02 04 at 10:24 pm

It’s fantastic!!!! my chin still hurts from when my jaw dropped like a rock to the table…

freckles added these pithy words on Dec 02 04 at 10:26 pm

There is also some serious deicrimiation on this “Party” site.

Have you noticed some players ALWAYS seem to leave a table with more money than they brought.

It’s as if some players are always losing, again and again…and others usually win.

I think the site is biased towards more experienced and skilled poker players. SCAM!

G-Rob added these pithy words on Dec 03 04 at 4:20 am

I have never trusted poker players who wear suits. Paranoid am I ?

Paddywhack added these pithy words on Dec 03 04 at 5:10 am

That could be the funniest thing I’ve seen in a long, long time…

Dann added these pithy words on Dec 03 04 at 5:34 am

WEll done

jb

jbharshaw added these pithy words on Dec 03 04 at 5:54 am

lmao… I work for an online poker site not saying which one but.. one of the players posted me this link telling me they had proof sites are rigged… I thought OMG here we go an hour going though everything with them. All i can say is thanks to whoever did this.. it made my day very funny indeed.

Kelly added these pithy words on Dec 03 04 at 6:00 am

OMG! No wonder I cannot win! I was at that table! See, I am the one in the third seat! This is horrible! heh. Great job! I love it!

SirFWALGMan added these pithy words on Dec 03 04 at 6:28 am

LOL. You caught me with the cards in my sleeve the other night!

mortal_one added these pithy words on Dec 03 04 at 6:56 am

you missed another!
zoom in on the hands of the player in seat #10
Is that a mirrored ring?
With that, he can see many of the cards flash by
during the deal.

bob added these pithy words on Dec 03 04 at 9:54 am

that made my morning lol…

Glad8tor added these pithy words on Dec 03 04 at 10:17 am

Thanks for wasting my time. Get a life you f’ing losers.

Especially you, J. Mays.

buzzkill added these pithy words on Dec 03 04 at 10:24 am

That had to be the funniest thing that I’ve seen in a long time. I guess thats why J. Mays always loses and complains so much about the online poker rooms. Doesn’t matter he sucks at cards in real life too.

Rivered Again added these pithy words on Dec 03 04 at 1:06 pm

That’s funny stuff. Nice job.

Mike added these pithy words on Dec 03 04 at 3:06 pm

Very nicely done!

Aaron added these pithy words on Dec 04 04 at 2:53 am

This is too Funny but I can say this least im ahead in PartyPoker Thank God
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BingoT added these pithy words on Dec 04 04 at 4:36 am

Hehe that’s great. That’s exactly why I play at PokerStars! :D

Nick added these pithy words on Dec 05 04 at 11:22 am

this is going world wide at the moment a real classic
greetings from Norway

wolfman added these pithy words on Dec 06 04 at 10:50 am

More evidence of Party being rigged….

Just the other day I was playing and noticed that the dealer was holding a red deck and everyone at the table had blue cards. I couldn’t believe it! As soon as I went to another table, everyone had red cards again. I think I caught them “red-handed” so to speak.

MtDewVirus added these pithy words on Dec 06 04 at 1:42 pm

Very funny. A nice link for our members.

pokerforums.net added these pithy words on Dec 06 04 at 2:34 pm

Hahahahahahaha…so cool :)
Another thing is that there are six players on the waiting list but still there´s a seat reserved - for who………?

I guess it is for the dealer´s wife.

RG added these pithy words on Dec 06 04 at 6:32 pm

funny…………..a little waste of time though
lol

have a good one,
cody

cody added these pithy words on Dec 07 04 at 10:44 pm

brilliant . was playing on pacific poker and some lad came on serious as u like and said ive got proof online poker is rigged . what an ASS CLOWN !!!!

harrison1303 added these pithy words on Dec 08 04 at 6:27 am

brilliant . was playing on pacific poker and some lad came on serious as u like and said ive got proof online poker is rigged . WHAT A MORON

harrison1303 added these pithy words on Dec 08 04 at 6:27 am

I fucking knew it. Thanks for your dedication and confirming I was right all along. I’m never playing online poker again. I’ve always suspected the dealer, but I never even thought about the guy with the ace up his sleave. It’s over for me.

guest added these pithy words on Dec 08 04 at 7:00 am

I like it, well done. Something else you missed was that the dealer bares a close ressemblance to David Blaine.He is infact his older brother Peter and he can miraculously make cards appear & disappear under peoples hands without anyone noticing just like his brother.
Just one more thing mr Columbo, how did you manage to sneak the eye in the sky tape out of the security room.

sly eye bob added these pithy words on Dec 08 04 at 4:34 pm

LOL, I knew it!! ;o)

BabyFace added these pithy words on Dec 09 04 at 4:33 am

I’ll tell you what.. It’s the god damn libians behind it all!

7-11 added these pithy words on Dec 12 04 at 6:38 am

Beautiful! Especially the part with the software blocking the players view. Love it.

Robert added these pithy words on Dec 12 04 at 9:52 pm

Thank you for making my day !
This is getting bookmarked for every person posting a “Rigged” post on RGP….

ArhusJ. added these pithy words on Dec 17 04 at 4:12 am

That is the gayest thing I have ever seen. Fucking faggot. That is so gay.. It’s not like players have their own minds. Dumbass.

Mike added these pithy words on Dec 19 04 at 4:41 pm

I bet you this crazy ***** is working for PP.

I envy you.

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BingoT added these pithy words on Dec 31 04 at 6:30 am

Too funny!!!!!!!!!! Great work, thanks for a much needed good laugh.I knew something was fishy,and now thanks to you,I’ve got the proof to go to the gaming commission with!!!ROFL

Keep up the good work!

Thomas added these pithy words on Jan 04 05 at 7:06 pm

Well, I guess there were no need to discover it with Software from CIA for $50. There are some image editors for free :)

PartyPoker Cheats added these pithy words on Jan 11 05 at 2:57 am

Perhaps the funniest thing I have seen in a long, long time.

Chris added these pithy words on Jan 11 05 at 9:20 am

Funny.

Thanks for doing it.

I knew the games were rigged because nobody EVER threw their chips into the pot wild — they were always so nicely stacked.

And NOBODY can split complicated, multiple all-in pots that fast. Not even the dealers at the MGM.

Charlie L added these pithy words on Jan 18 05 at 10:47 am

Great work man. Funny as hell.

One note: It’s ‘redacted’, not ‘dedacted’ ;)

Brad added these pithy words on Jan 18 05 at 1:46 pm

This is so Funny but not True
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Bingo T's New Fourm added these pithy words on Jan 20 05 at 4:13 am

This is so Funny but not True
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Bingo T's New Fourm added these pithy words on Jan 20 05 at 4:21 am

The dealer doesn’t have a chair…meaning the reason he deals off of the bottom of the deck is to only retrieve his balance every few hands. The guy with the tie matching his hair does indeed have a card in his sleeve. Only, it’s from an uno deck, therefore he is a moron!

american added these pithy words on Jan 23 05 at 9:48 pm

The dealer doesn’t have a chair…meaning the reason he deals off of the bottom of the deck is to only retrieve his balance every few hands. The guy with the tie matching his hair does indeed have a card in his sleeve. Only, it’s from an uno deck, therefore he is a moron!

american added these pithy words on Jan 23 05 at 9:48 pm

Excelent con, if anyone took the time to enlarge the original picture you will see that thos cards have been added in. The first give away is the different resolutions. Now whos trying to defraud people. Anyone with slight knowledge of Photoshop could add extra crdas in, and do a better job at that this idiot!!!

What A Joke added these pithy words on Jan 29 05 at 1:21 pm

made my night!!! great joke!

dj_lucas added these pithy words on Feb 01 05 at 6:03 pm

i always thought it was fixed.when that guy had 5 aces i started getting suspicious.party poker i wany my millions that i lost back.

tom newkirk added these pithy words on Feb 03 05 at 12:17 pm

i always thought it was fixed.when that guy had 5 aces i started getting suspicious.party poker i want my millions that i lost back.

tom newkirk added these pithy words on Feb 03 05 at 12:17 pm

Thats hilarious!!

jugrnt added these pithy words on Feb 05 05 at 3:08 pm

This is a Joke I know it because least im on a + with them. They Don’t take Money from me

I'll give you your Money Back lol added these pithy words on Feb 06 05 at 7:13 am

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xani added these pithy words on Feb 06 05 at 11:22 pm

I am so mad.Im closing my account immediately,lol

rusty shackleford added these pithy words on Feb 09 05 at 1:53 am

This would be a hilarious skit to go on SNL!

JustToFunny added these pithy words on Feb 10 05 at 8:18 am

No wonder i am always losing on pp….now i know who to blame…….lol lol lol

mabellmom added these pithy words on Feb 13 05 at 8:52 am

I can’t stop thinking about how hillarious this is. I hope you don’t mind but I am going to link to your blog. My subscribers have got to see this, hahahaha
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Jason Moffatt added these pithy words on Feb 13 05 at 4:52 pm

nice photochop

slong added these pithy words on Feb 16 05 at 3:46 pm

I liked it it made me happy, but really online poker is rigged someone beat me with an ace on the turn wtf is that.

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mothergeoff added these pithy words on Feb 18 05 at 2:29 am

Buzz on you all!

Buzz added these pithy words on Feb 25 05 at 2:13 am

OMG! That’s hilarious! :D

Bergis added these pithy words on Feb 25 05 at 5:42 am

Absolutely wonderful. Have bookmarked for all my friends

BrianD added these pithy words on Feb 28 05 at 12:33 pm

Excellent!

TMan added these pithy words on Feb 28 05 at 6:08 pm

That’s pretty funny…but don’t doubt that you aren’t being cheated.

Poker bots are real and I can prove it because I have one!!!

JonDough added these pithy words on Mar 01 05 at 8:23 pm

nice

hydrocodone added these pithy words on Mar 05 05 at 8:55 am

WHAT A MORON! Online poker is rigged and you try and make light of it using stupidity? What a baffoon

perryf added these pithy words on Mar 05 05 at 5:36 pm

Great job, LOL.

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nate added these pithy words on Mar 06 05 at 12:56 am

Hahaha, that’s awesome! Very cool. I knew I was being cheated all this time! :-P

George added these pithy words on Mar 07 05 at 10:42 am

Haha, didnt expect to see that. :)

poker added these pithy words on Mar 07 05 at 1:19 pm

L O L !!!

peter added these pithy words on Mar 07 05 at 2:14 pm

hahaha nice one.

to the people sure about the rooms riggin’ the games….

sure the idea is to have the dealer win right… i knew it i always lose to the dealer :)

Pokerjoe added these pithy words on Mar 08 05 at 3:15 pm

What a great gag….. Good on you… Made my day LOL I demanded my money back right away… too bad Party won’t survive the “run on the bank” ahahahahahah

PokerPrincess added these pithy words on Mar 09 05 at 2:47 pm

lol

wuzzy added these pithy words on Mar 10 05 at 3:59 pm

That’s classic!! LOL

real estate license added these pithy words on Mar 11 05 at 9:44 am

Unreal, that people wouldn’t have caught that before. Thanks Jason for breaking the truth.

lol

JD

jdmath added these pithy words on Mar 11 05 at 3:07 pm

Shut up dicks - you try operating a profitable betting site. blah blah blah auditted games 98.95% payout, who the fcuk can audit my server??? BOLLOX to you losers - gamble and spunk your wages you worthless dregs and stop complaining.

Scotty Blaze added these pithy words on Mar 11 05 at 5:49 pm

That’s Cool Come Play Some Poker
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PartyPoker#1 added these pithy words on Mar 15 05 at 11:54 am

24 hours in a day - 24 beerws in a case. Coincidence? I think not! Conspiracy, yes.

Bob added these pithy words on Mar 22 05 at 8:15 am

What a gong show, lamest thing ive seen in a while, why would you even waste your time to to prove that PP cheats?

Frank added these pithy words on Mar 22 05 at 10:00 am

And now for the rest of the story.

Al Lin added these pithy words on Mar 22 05 at 7:57 pm

I agree with a statement made above. The dealer IS INDEED dealing off the bottom of the deck, and there is a bar in place to protect the sight of that. However the “card” placed in the players sleeve is a scam in itself. To anyone that doesn’t know what I mean, go ahead and copy the ORIGINAL image, then paste it into Paint and blow it up. You’ll see there is no card up the man’s sleeve, he’s just a greaseball, hate him for that. But don’t call him a cheater. Funny yes, but I left Party Poker because I play a site that atleast has more competitive players, instead of the jackasses that just go all-in every hand on 3 7 offsuit, and I’ll agree some of the hands I’ve seen dealt are a little fishy, and the computer has a serious hard-on for giving the flushes, even if puts all 13 cards of a suit into play, where are the realistic odds?

Wurm Herman added these pithy words on Mar 29 05 at 8:20 pm

“Excelent con, if anyone took the time to enlarge the original picture you will see that thos cards have been added in. The first give away is the different resolutions”
Who the hell is this idiot?
You mean they were photoshopped?? No way!!!!!

Dan added these pithy words on Apr 01 05 at 9:45 am

that’s awesome… i should sit in that seat now and claim i’m cheating just for fun… i love these guys who comment about how pissed they are you’re ruining business because it’s completely obvious that the avatars have nothing to do with the cards coming out

i really hope that jonnyblaze and perryf and mike were joking when they saw this because they looked pretty pissed… it’s almost like blue collar comedy tour… “here’s your sign”

BOB added these pithy words on Apr 01 05 at 10:18 pm

I don’t get it. Why isn’t anyone doing anything about this cheating.It’s not fair

mememe added these pithy words on Apr 06 05 at 11:42 pm

First of all I play on numerous online poker sites. Every poker site pans out to be genuine that I have played, except Party Poker. I am 100% sure that Party Poker is rigged. Aside from my personal expereinces with Party Poker, you can go anywhere on the internet and see thousands of people that say the same thing, but you don’t read anything about the other poker sites. Why does Party Poker continually come up? It’s the only site if you flop two pair it’s usually a good idea to fold or fold pocket aces for that matter.
When I play online poker I usually play 4 games at once and the tables flops (at Party Poker)coincide from table to table, which sometimes I can figure out whether or not to play my hand based on what happens at the other tables Mostly I avoid Party Poker, but I am sure their is a way to use this rigged site to your advantage in knowing that it is fixed. I just can’t believe that this site gets away with this blantant and obvious card rigging. I am pissed and something needs to be done about it. Party Poker needs to be audited and taken off the internet.

jj added these pithy words on Jun 23 05 at 4:35 am

Nice work ! Funny as heck !

Caz added these pithy words on Jun 26 05 at 7:19 pm

The guy with blonde hair is a terrorist too.

skullsbeneath added these pithy words on Jun 30 05 at 4:51 pm

LOL. Have you ever seen breaking Vegas. the RNG can be tweaked by a code. It is possible to rigg a online poker game. You just need access to the software.

Stephen added these pithy words on Aug 01 05 at 1:53 am

Hmmm…look at player#7.Tell me what’s odd about him.That’s right,you got it,he is playing with the dealer button!!!Why is his left hand UNDER it?Is he putting knuckle sweat imprints under it to pass along a secret code to player # 8for the next round?Maybe it’s a double secret code to player # 2 to fix his right cuff.What’s in there?
Summary > The Dealer and players 1,2,7,8,9,10 are all cheating!!!
Hmmm… the table is definitely rigged!!!

Mensa Man Fred added these pithy words on Aug 09 05 at 10:59 pm

POOP SANDIWCH!

poopypants added these pithy words on Aug 30 05 at 2:10 pm

funny shit man…lol..we’re all doom

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patrick added these pithy words on Sep 15 05 at 2:27 pm

Best stuff ever. Keep it up!

mahesh added these pithy words on Sep 19 05 at 4:29 pm

Nice artwork, but if you really want to see how corrupt online poker truly is visit http://www.pokerconduct.net/

Big Won added these pithy words on Sep 19 05 at 8:24 pm

u guys r so fukin thick its just computer imageg geez y wud party poker make him look liek ehs got a card up hes sleeve.. so ur sayin if u sit next 2 tha dealer have a chance on winning hahaha ur all stupid

JusTiiN_SaNe added these pithy words on Sep 20 05 at 6:57 am

thanks.
my earnings have been on a downward trend since u outed me.

ucanwin added these pithy words on Oct 04 05 at 7:11 pm

That was an amazing feat dude. Your work is something to be proud of. I was not really aware of the cheating the occurs in online gambling sites. Well, now I know how to detect cheating. Thanks to your comprehensive study, no one is going to fool me now.

the game added these pithy words on Oct 13 05 at 10:01 pm

LOL histerical

almost as funny as the fools that really think its NOT rigged.

like the guy that plays pacific and called somebody a moron.

hey i guess its just one of those things that they deal more full houses than flushes. you might want to start counting. i did. ob but wait i must be a moron. i think thats proof. silly me didnt realize that your supposed to have more full houses than flushes.

flopcat added these pithy words on Oct 17 05 at 10:05 am

audit all of them. not only is party not the only one i can no longer find one thats honest. Reason: bad player puts 100 in site sits at 36 call every card.
random cards loses in 20 hands 10 minutes
players get 80 site gets 20 rake. guy never comes back
rigged cards site insures he wins half he shouldnt
it takes 600 hands b4 he loses his money.
good players get 20 site gets 80 in rake
he returns cause its so much fun and thinks he just got unlucky lol
if even 1 site is like this the bad players flock to it. the good ones chase the fish to the rigged site. honest sites either go under or join the club. more players plus larger pct of the deposits go to rake. tough to stay honest and go out of busines.
we need REAL regulation. not south african division of pwc or indian gaming club you give em heap big wampam we letem u steal from white man.

Rob added these pithy words on Oct 17 05 at 10:16 am

Great spoof. It’s tiresome seeing all the moans about poker being rigged on the forums, so it’s good to see someone taking them as seriously as they deserve. Got any more ’scam alerts’?

David added these pithy words on Oct 18 05 at 5:44 am

I agree with JJ and Rob. I also play multiple sites and found the Partypoker network to be biased toward lesser probability hands, mostly if the idiot playing them raises and reraises.

I have heard this “reward the raiser” idea can be programed into the algorythm, but have only noticed a bias at partypoker.

PokerStars and Pokerroom seemed much more realistic when it comes to those miracle hands hitting, but if you insist on playing with the larger crowd at partypoker, then raise, raise, raise.

Rob also had an excellent analysis of the incentive behind it.

Its fun to laugh at people when they suggest a site is rigged, but in the case of Partypoker it may not be completely unfounded. I would strongly suggest one of the other sites.

Joe added these pithy words on Oct 28 05 at 9:14 am

vary interesting partypoker always has a way of making certain seats at a poker table win and everyone else once in every 15 hands for 1 win. i will try to see if i can find some totally trueful sites. i also think that paradisepoker.net might also be rigged. nice work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

william added these pithy words on Nov 06 05 at 5:41 am

check paradisepoker.net for cons

william added these pithy words on Nov 06 05 at 5:43 am

I think the ones’s that talk shit about PartyPoker are losers and can’t play the game

PokerKing added these pithy words on Nov 12 05 at 9:09 am

The one’s that talk stuff about PartyPoker I bet can’t play the game and they are A POORRRRRRRRRR LOSER and can’t PLAY

PokerKing added these pithy words on Nov 12 05 at 9:11 am

with all the corporate scum out there you have to be naive not to realize that online poker is fixed. The sites are loaded with shills and programming to speed up play.

As an expert player i have seen an inordinate amount of bad beats on many of the sites

pokerchip added these pithy words on Nov 23 05 at 2:43 am

there are definately poker bots, collusion and many other forms of cheating online. try to make light of it, but the majority of the world knows that it’s true.

Online Poker Sucks added these pithy words on Nov 23 05 at 11:55 pm

While that is a funny post, the actual statistic tell a different story. After running a statistical review of Party Poker over 35,000 hands and 8 different players we found the distribution of cards and winning hands to be heavily scewed toward certain outcomes. For one example, an inordinate amount of straights, almost 4 times the random expectation per hands played, appeared in our study. For a poker player attempting to play with the odds, these rel=sults were startling to way the least. While we can not say for certain whether Party Poker has written these irregularities into their program, or if they are even aware of them, it is not advisable to play at a site where the deal is not random as robots and other statistical methods of cheating could be possible. While most internet poker sites have not shown these irregularities, we strongly advise to avoid Party Poker. Too many other poker sites with a better chance of being legite to take a chance on a suspicious site.

blend added these pithy words on Dec 04 05 at 7:56 pm

Who is “we” and would you be willing to share that hand history with the public? Because I have several hundred thousands hands on Party and they don’t show any abnormalities.

Bill added these pithy words on Dec 04 05 at 8:26 pm

I had a few posts here, and they seem to be gone. Musta hit a nerve or something?

justtookitlarge added these pithy words on Dec 10 05 at 4:45 am

Oh, by the way, the flops are 100% rigged for action. Every site, not just Party Poker. Its called “Optimized for maximum profit”. And Im a winning player HAHA. Hey Bill, where did all my posts go?

justtookitlarge added these pithy words on Dec 10 05 at 4:48 am

there are so called cheats that work on most poker sites, they are mathmatical based by entering in your dealt card and any exposed cards and in what postion these cards were in it only takes about 25 hands before it starts to work. you can see for your self http://www.powerpokerwizard.com i think you will be amazed.

moneeybagz added these pithy words on Dec 21 05 at 7:23 pm

MoneeyBagz,

I’ve seen the ads but based on what I know about RNG and the shuffling methods used by most of today’s card rooms, I think the produce is bs. I’ve yet to see any respected mathematician or poker player validate the results.

Bill

Bill added these pithy words on Dec 21 05 at 8:07 pm

Nice sarcasim…but since this site is put on the web by poker stars…or who ever…the sites are rigged…ab…so …loot…lee….got the fox watching the hen house…if you know what I mean….Who is going to monitor…LOL…how do they sleep at night????

looser by rigged sites added these pithy words on Dec 21 05 at 10:42 pm

Good Evening,

I have been playing live poker games since the age of 18. I have done very well and considered a good poker player against most of the players I have played with. I am very familiar with calculating odds and figuring probabilities. I have had much success with the game away from the computer. I am now 38 years of age and started playing on-line for the first time this year on POKERSTARS.com. THIS SITE IS RIGGED. I GUARANTEE THAT THERE IS AN ALGORITHMIC FORMULA WHICH QUICKENS THE PACE OF THE GAME BY ELIMINATING PLAYERS WITH A SMALLER BANK ROLL. This in turn, allows POKERSTARS to get tournaments over quicker. WHY? Because they make there money from entry fees. The quicker the games, the faster they fill new tournaments. Don’t believe me? Check out a tournament table sometime and watch the bad beats that happen on a consistent basis. Not a fairly consistent basis, but a CONSISTANT basis. This happens in a number of ways, and it can be easily witnessed by anyone with poker knowledge. It is especially common in all-in situations where 1 to 3 players go on in. Also, watch how players in all-in situations which only usually involve 4-6 cards( 2 from each players hand)always catch part of the flop. A very, very, very unusual coincidence. If you play poker on a regular basis and understand the game, probabilities and odds, then there is an absolute based on my observation ( and yours once you watch) that POKERSTARS is rigged. It is rigged and that is that. I have heard similar claims for other sites and I have seen this anomaly on them as well. I am more familiar with POKERSTARS so I will reference them. As far as other cheating methods imposed by these sites, I cannot prove them valid. I am sure that it probably exists, but it is impossible to prove. Bill, as far as your claims, here are my comments for you. If you were involved in the development of certain poker software and claim it is not rigged, then you were not as involved in the process as you think you were. Or you are involved with these sites and feel the need to tout them for economic reasons. Whatever the case, for one to give you the “empirical evidence” you are looking for; it would involve a detailed inspection of the software developed and in use by these sites. And since you know that the commenter on this site will never have access to these proprietary software programs, then you feel extremely safe in making and standing behind your contentions. My contentions are made on observations and analysis of thousands of hands that I have been involved in and watched involving on-line poker. Yours are based on nothing more than ” you have no evidence so your observations are wrong”!!! Well that’s not good enough for the thousands of people that claim they are. Sure there are bad beats in poker, we have all experienced them. There are also bad bets in poker as well. We try to limit our bad bets, so lets all start by not betting our hard earned money with on-line poker sites and the biased touts of it’s employees.

RC

i2luvcash added these pithy words on Jan 05 06 at 9:05 am

gotta love it

Perra added these pithy words on Jan 06 06 at 3:32 am

NICE PHOTOSHOP!!!

Eric Chan added these pithy words on Jan 08 06 at 8:06 pm

Haha, thanks for the great laugh! iluv2cash, i see what your saying… its sad what the worlds come to

John added these pithy words on Jan 08 06 at 10:21 pm

omg, i cant believe that they hav ebeen tricking us like this i will be sure to send them an email showing this hard evidence and then it will be revealed to all the people who are being cheated by party poker… thank you for showing me this.

danny added these pithy words on Jan 09 06 at 2:18 pm

Personally I blame ebay for selling you the software in the first place. You can always trust poker players, after all.

stephen added these pithy words on Jan 10 06 at 9:34 am

personally stephen is gay

danny added these pithy words on Jan 11 06 at 11:43 am

Danny. You personally know that Stephen is gay? Hmmm….

The One added these pithy words on Jan 12 06 at 2:39 pm

LOL! you are crazy! :=) very funny

Chris added these pithy words on Jan 16 06 at 7:02 pm

lol. Oh man that was great! I was searching for other poker info, and linked to this page unexpectedly. Now, it’s a bookmark! Love it. Keep it up!

Jay added these pithy words on Jan 16 06 at 9:39 pm

haha, very nice…

Nick added these pithy words on Jan 18 06 at 8:55 pm

I’d just like to say that there is in fact poker sites who do actually rig the deck in order to lure ppl to play real poker.

Michael added these pithy words on Jan 19 06 at 8:41 am

I’ve complained to PartyPoker and Coral Poker each time I get my hand dealt it deals them FACE UP SO ALL THE OTHER PLAYERS CAN SEE MY CARDS……

It does’nt do this with the other players cards…..

These sites are deliberatly colluding with the nine other players round the table to fleece me of my money…

Ade added these pithy words on Jan 19 06 at 8:46 am

Isn’t it funny how everyone of the so called
experts on the net claiming online poker to be
legit are all affiliates of on or more online
poker sites

Ripped_rawbyonlinepoker added these pithy words on Jan 22 06 at 9:00 pm

Classic! LOL

Sports Betting added these pithy words on Jan 30 06 at 12:18 pm

haha, I was really thinking it was somethging serious till I came to “It looks normal unless you really examine the photo. Using some highly classified vector digital imaging software from the CIA I picked up on eBay for $50″
Then I nearly fell of my chair,so funny hahaha!

Magnus added these pithy words on Jan 30 06 at 6:47 pm

Just to let everyone know online cheating goes on at Absolute Poker too. I’ve notice cheating on every free-roll where certain ones know the flop turn and river. If they cheat at free-rolls Are they cheating on the money tables too?? Best thing to do is play at live tables not on the internet.
cool pics
acer

acer added these pithy words on Feb 02 06 at 5:23 pm

That’s my cousin dealing and my brotherinlaw to the right. HOWDARE YOU accuse them of cheating. I was there 4 th from the left. We may sue.

scott thompson added these pithy words on Feb 06 06 at 2:07 am

hehehe omg asg lol rolf eru vadÃ¥rÃ¥ ffs omg bbq lol pants noob you are elite 1337… omng standing ovasion from the cs scene. and finnaly you are worth one more lol

zobeee added these pithy words on Feb 13 06 at 12:47 pm

i’ve had a feelimg these sites were rigged. i’ve often floped straights and always lost to a flush. i play on 5 sites and it happens to all of them. i have won hands and had my money go to a different player. i’ve seen people go all in with 27os and win the hand. i play free roll on five sites and the only one one i’ll put money on is (hollywoodpoker) i have won my fair share of tourny’s on that site and consider it to be the only site that is not rigged.

barry duane added these pithy words on Feb 13 06 at 9:33 pm

I knew online poker was rigged thanks for prooving it.

Kevin added these pithy words on Feb 21 06 at 3:25 pm

I don’t know what to make of it . I seem to do not so bad in tournies . But it seems everytime i do a cashout I lose and lose and lose . Yesterday i played for more than an hour and a half on a tourney at pokerstars and i was not able to get a decent starting hand . note: I had cashed out for a tourney i came in 4 th place the night before . today i was doing real well in a re buy tourney i have pocket 8’s . the flop comes 8 J J i’m first to bet so i slow play the full house like i’m supposed to and i get action so i call and the turn is a 4 . he bets and i raise all-in for 25,000. he calls my all-in . Guess what the river was !!! you got it . it was a J and guess what he was holding in his hand . You got it . He had the last J . Co-incidence my ass. Bad beat my ass. another thing . I play a lot after winning big and when i do i used to go to ring games or sitn’go . I could never win . always seem to make 4th but could never crack the money. then i heard that they load the table with 3 or more players and they are all on msn messenger communicating there hands to each other . no wonder i can’t win. one last comment . pokerstars and most all other sites run out of khanawake, Quebec canada . An indian reservation run by the mohawk nation. The same mohawks who murdered a policeman . the same mohawks who smuggled liquor and cigarettes out of new york to sell for profit. the same mohawks who barricaded the mercier bridge and held the city of montreal hostage with .30 caliber browning machine guns . the same mohawks whom their elders(government) supported this . I have the news footage to prove it too.This is the gaming commission that controls these websites. corrupt, murderers, terrorists. why don’t these stories circulate? I don’t care if pokerstars or anybody finds out about what i am saying . I am done playing online . I am getting out now while i still have my shirt on my back .Shame on you chris moneymaker, shame on you greg raymer and shame on anybody else who helps to promote these corrupt sites. Ever wonder why you harldy ever see anyone from montreal, or quebec on these sites . it’s because they know . So Beware all .

steven added these pithy words on Feb 22 06 at 3:13 am

Just wanted to add something to . You see all these guys calling with draws post flop . they always seem to hit . why is it when i decide to make a play that way i can’t hit jack . Coincidence . Ya pigs fly too. the truth is that if you are marked you are marked .

steven added these pithy words on Feb 22 06 at 7:00 pm

to all those that think online poker is rigged, here is an easy solution, either
a) buy yourself one of those stupid RNG programs so you “know” what cards are going to come on the board (haha load of bs)(just spend some money for nothing)
b) carry on playing and giving your money to others who play properly
c)STOP PLAYING

oh and to the poster who stated that people call with 72o and win, sorry about that, thats one of my favourite hands, boy when the board comes in my favour, you get paid BIG time lol

me added these pithy words on Feb 22 06 at 7:20 pm

I have been a poker player for many years at casinos and real live games. I have always had success at these live cash games. I can say with absolute certainty that there is suscpicious activity in online gaming. I think my first clue to this was when I played in back to back sit and go’s and saw the exact same PP in opposing players hands…..only to be followed by the EXACT same flop! And when I say the same flop I mean the same suites as well. I think the odds of this happening are astronomical. It was on Full Tilt poker and the site was notorious for rediculous beats, much like Poker Stars and Party Poker. And as for some idiot trying to make a joke about it with some silly doctored photos….well that just seems to me like he’s trying to take heat off of the company he works for. I’m sure eventually you will see something on CNN, so until then it’s real simple……STOP PLAYING ONLINE!

StuTHEJew added these pithy words on Feb 25 06 at 12:04 am

Classic

Game Renders added these pithy words on Mar 06 06 at 10:20 pm

this is great…

goof added these pithy words on Mar 14 06 at 3:13 pm

ur stupid and probably dont understand poker
PROVE ME WRONG i am DARING U!!!FAGGOT!

fu added these pithy words on Mar 18 06 at 12:30 am

The math does not add up, and true players know when somethin is fishy. Im going to stop playing online, It is NOT LEGIT.

jb added these pithy words on Mar 18 06 at 1:00 am

There are people who work for the pokerrooms that can see all the cards, they win money and return it to the pokerroom. The only money they receive is a paycheck, with some nice zero’s.

You think they go through all that programmingtrouble for some rigging, no they just put in some cheaters who can see all the cards. Rake is just cover.

Manipulating software is as easy as 123.

But i think this is the best rigging joke i’ve ever seen. Lol, the only rigging joke i’ve ever seen. But to bad he hasn’t put more effort in evening up the resolutions.

Mr. Me added these pithy words on Mar 19 06 at 7:20 am

haha! FANTASTIC!

Carl added these pithy words on Mar 29 06 at 8:56 am

I just dont get the card up the sleeve thing. Its not a god dang real player.. Card up the sleeve or not I dont see how it matters, its a computer player. Its not like the guy is actually there able to use the card!!!!!!!!! And the bottom of the deck thing is just a visual glitch… Everyone is blowing the whole thing way out of porportion…. Party poker is perfectly ligit…. I think all the losers need to quit whining because they cant manage to keep there account in the plus… I have never had any problem ruling every table almost and I certainly dont cheat… All of u need to read a few poker books and all of a sudden u will realize that the whole cheating idea is proposturous….. PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kevin added these pithy words on Apr 03 06 at 6:08 pm

All these comments are so mediocre i cant even tell if yall are joking or being serious.. If these are the best things yall can come up with yall shouldnt even be having this discussion…

Kevin added these pithy words on Apr 03 06 at 6:20 pm

As for STUTHEJEW, he says that he has no problem winning real games and at casinos, I believe.. But what he didnt bring up is the fact that at a real table u can see expressions and tells.. But online u dont have that, all u can go by is betting habits of other players and percentages.. He makes no sense.. U cannot expect to do well just because u are better in real life.. Yet another bullshit excuse for losing to much….. As for the same two hands in a row and the same suits, improbable but definately not impossible, and thats a fact, for sure not astronomical.. He is obviously not the pro he thinks he is or he would have seen it before….. Cant wait fr something to back up these rigging rumors for gods sake…All ive seen is sore losers whining!!!!!!!!!

Kevin added these pithy words on Apr 03 06 at 6:27 pm

Party poker is rigged. ive been a poker player for a long time and ive never gotten so many bad beats in my life.ive also gotten pocket kings and aces 3 times in a row.i dont call that luck i call it a setup.i lost everytime with them. i must say i dont belive the card up the sleeve and all that mubo jumbo. but i do believe their are drones who sit in as real people to clean house. Its rigged bottom line.

Greg added these pithy words on Apr 06 06 at 10:55 pm

I THINK PARTY POKER IS RIGGED.YOU GO ON STREAKS WHERE YOU WIN AND WIN,OR YOU GO ON LOSING STREAKS WHERE YOU CAN’T WIN NO MATTER WHAT HAND YOU HAVE AND NO MATTER HOW YOU PLAY IT.EVERYTIME I HAVE CASHED OUT,I ENDED UP LOSING MORE MONEY THEN I CASHED OUT.ONCE I WENT FROM $300 TO $4700 IN 2-3 DAYS.THEN ON THE FOURTH DAY I LOST IT ALL IN AN 1- 2 HOUR SPAN,I GOT POCKET ACES 2 OUT OF 3 HANDS AND LOST TO 2 PAIR I JUST COULDN’T WIN A HAND.I THINK YOU GET MARKED SOMETIMES TO WIN OR LOSE.AND THE AMOUNT OF BAD BEATS USUALLY ON THE RIVER IS DIGUSTING.

king added these pithy words on Apr 11 06 at 4:02 pm

Ever notice how when u first sgn on to a new site it let’s you win?….Then if u play a while, a couple days for example. You end up losing to all these bad beats?…..it cost me about 5 grand to figure this bullshit out!!!!NEVER EVER EVER FUCKING AGAIN!!!!

dan added these pithy words on Apr 18 06 at 3:00 pm

Sad to say, but it’s true, Online Gambling is definitely Rigged and all the facts can be found at http://www.pokerconduct.com/

Why is online poker rigged? Greed! It’s as simple as that. Plain old fashioned Greed!

Some try to say that these sites can’t make it on just the Rake alone, but that’s a bunch of BS! How many Brick and Mortar rooms have you heard about closing down because the Rake wasn’t enough revenue to keep things going? None, Zero, that’s how many!

Yes, I’m an advocate for PokerConduct and that is why I’m here. The TRUTH needs to be told!

M T Rutter added these pithy words on Apr 21 06 at 10:53 am

Well I play online Poker all the time and nothing will stop me. Yes it is true over the last month i’ve lost about $20,000 but I believe in gambling karma. If I have not lost that $20,000 last month, I wouldn’t have won a mini cooper at my last trip in Las Vegas. I love to gamble and I love Las Vegas and online Poker. Viva Las Vegas and online poker!

LAS VEGAS FLIGHTS HOTEL MANDALAY BAY CAESARS PALACE BELLAGIO WYNN VENETIAN added these pithy words on May 12 06 at 3:43 pm

Alright, here is what it is about. If online poker worked correctly, the fish would eventually get wiped out by the good players, and they would quit playing, costing the sites lots and lots of money. Therefore, this explains why my two straight all in pocket aces were called by the exact same hand, 2-4, and lost both times. They need the idiot fish to hit, in order to keep them playing.
Now, even being dealt pocket aces two straight hands is a rig in itself. Having the same hand call them twice, and wipe them out both times, is completely ridiculous. Online poker is so 100% rigged for action, it is amazing they still operate. Maximum rake, quick tourney turnover is all these crooks want. As well as keeping the idiot fish happy.

justtookitlarge added these pithy words on May 12 06 at 11:55 pm

Online poker is about as random as the sun rising in the morning. In real life everyone does not hit big every hand. Esepcially in heads up preflop all ins during tourneys,

2 pocket pairs the lower pair most of the time catch sets against you if you are a marked player, or 2 over cards beat your pair 99% of the time.

One guy flops set other hitss runner runner str8 with to over cards, etc.

Sometimes this can happen yes, but nearly 100% of the time in these situations shorthanded on preflop all ins. Get Real. 4 cards involved in a hand always hit this big is not against the odds???

You so work for online poker and are a shill Bill

Don't worry about it added these pithy words on May 25 06 at 11:34 am

I used to think that online poker sites can not possibly be rigged so as to protect the integrity of the site, until one night when I actually saw something really strange. I was in a tourney and one guy told another to go all in. He did, and as I was thinking about my next move (pokerstars gives you 15 seconds to decide), after 5 seconds my hand was folded for me, and so were all the other player’s hands. The next 4 hands these two guys beat the rest of the players with: straight flush, full house, four of a kind (aces), and four of a kind (kings). Now how can you possibly explain that?

Something's up added these pithy words on Jun 09 06 at 9:25 pm

This comes from someone who is a realist. I don’t like to think that people are bad - but when it comes to money, they usually are. I have watched bad beats happen on Party Poker for so long that it became an obsession of mine. I personally won only 1 of the last 26 times I had pocket aces. Even when I try to steal the blind with them, some “idiot” with a 3-5 unsuited calls. The flop is A-2-4 giving me trip Aces and all the confidence in the world becaus the only hand that could beat me now without horribly unlucky runing turn and river cards is a straight and that would mean that the idiot called my all in with a 3-5. The turn is a inconsequencial 9 and the river is a king and the game is over! My trip aces lose to this straight. So that makes the idiot a true lucky idiot - or does it. If this happened once or twice I might over look it and justify it as bad luck, but really, who in their right mind call an all in bet having a 3-5 unsuited (or suited for that matter)? Now - this is the best. I’m dealt an Ace-8 suited. Someone raise me - I call. The flop is 8-8-10. I check and my opponent raises me high numbers. I call. The turn card is the 4th 8 and I check again. My opponent goes all in. I follow - I mean wouldn’t you? He shows pocket 10’s and thus he has 3-10’s to my 4-8’s. I don’t think I need to tell you what the river card was but it should suffice to say I lost the hand. This just doesn’t happen in reality games. This is what Party Poker is doing and why they think they can get away with it. Party Poker is not content with the juice money they make in the tournement rooms. So - 20% of the time they stick a DICK in the room. Any name - LOVE2ROCK from Little Rock Arkansas. And while you think you are playing a straight up game, you are playing with someone who can see exactly what the cards are and how to take everyone’s money. Trust me, I know this is true. Sure, you can win every now and again but no matter how good a player you are, when pocket aces lose over 90% of the time, something aint right. Now - people say, “well that wouldn’t be legal.” Right - but what are you going to do? Find the company and trael to that country and sue the CEO for cheating? Chances are you are playing illegally anyway as gambling is probably not legal in your state. So it would be like going to the police to say the hooker you’ve been screwing gave you herpes and you want to sue her for damages.

Save your money and play with your friends or in Vegas where there is actually something for the people who play in and run the tournements to lose if they are caught cheating. Vegas would be destroyed.

David Exorcist added these pithy words on Jun 19 06 at 11:09 am

HAHAH Great post! First time viewing your site and this single post got me hooked. hahahahah thanks for the laugh, we need this sometimes in the serious world of poker ;)

Joe added these pithy words on Jun 19 06 at 8:38 pm

Such a funny post. Has anyone check on any other Poker sites to see if they’re legit?

Todd added these pithy words on Jun 29 06 at 9:42 am

FREAKIN HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!
I ALWAYS HAD A SUSPICION THAT THE DEALERS AT PARTY WERE IN ON IT

CUSH added these pithy words on Jun 30 06 at 4:27 pm

You are so clever… haha made me laugh… Yeah I mean really.. who would think that online poker is rigged? Just because they are all based off-shore, have no government regulations, have no RANDOM key word RANDOM third party audits, yeah what evidence does he have?
If you could give yourself a payraise and not get caught, would you? OF COURSE NOT !!! rediculous… keep up the good work.. dryin my eyes from the tears I laughed so hard.

Mineyours added these pithy words on Jul 01 06 at 8:51 pm

2 year old blog post still raising a chuckle. Nice Bill, nice.

Gamblog added these pithy words on Jul 08 06 at 8:16 am

Fantastic post.

PokerBonuses added these pithy words on Jul 10 06 at 11:09 am

I just played in a Big MTT. AA lost 3 times in 10 hands, twice heads up and once 3 handed.
The winning hands heads up were J10 who flopped a Jack and hit runner runner flush, calling AA all in. 3 handed a fish with Q2 flopped Q2. Heads up again very next play after Q2 wins. AK raises preflop 500 reraised 2000 by AcAd and AsKs calls. Flop is 7910 with 2 clubs. AA reraises all in, and AK calls, runner runner JQ, and 3 out of 10 hands AA is out of the tourney. Of course it couldn’t possibly be rigged. We all know how honest online poker gaming sites are. Great Post Bill, you nitwit.

Don't worry about it added these pithy words on Jul 11 06 at 5:28 pm

I’m never playing online poker again..

Sports Gambling added these pithy words on Jul 12 06 at 11:10 pm

I just realized that it was a joke haha

Online Sportsbook added these pithy words on Jul 16 06 at 9:14 pm

http://www.pokerconduct.com/ I saw this link posted earlier, so I checked it out and read about my current “problem” site Full Tilt. It lists http://www.kahnawake.com/gamingcommission/ as a place that holds the “permit” and “server” for Full Tilt, so I checked the other sites that they hold permits for and lo and behold, every site that I have lost money to is there, from poker to casinos. It amazes me that only the sites i’ve lost money on were listed. Not saying that the others are legit, but I feel almost black listed. I lose big and always to a bad beat, like AA to 10 9 os all in pre-flop and him hitting two pair (my most recent) on the poker sites (ie. Paradise, UB, BetUS, Full Tilt, recently). When I saw that they are all governed by the same entity, I litterally felt ill. All of these sites have my basic information (name, add, etc) so it’s not hard to group me in a “fuck this guy” category.

Max Wilcox added these pithy words on Jul 20 06 at 3:25 pm

Now I have a question. As I have mentioned, my most recent site has been Full Tilt. This site occasionally features several of it’s “pros” playing on the tables with us average joes. All of the “poker isn’t rigged” folk consistanly balk that “bad beats happen, get over it”, well then why is it that in the hours i’ve spent watching these tables with the “pros”, they don’t catch any. Not one that i’ve seen. Now it sure as hell doesn’t take even one hour for me to get a bad hit or ten. Stick that one in your pipe and smoke it.

Max Wilcox added these pithy words on Jul 20 06 at 3:29 pm

you’re a faggot with way to much damn time

Colton added these pithy words on Jul 22 06 at 9:56 pm

Wow, nice well thought out reply. Did it take you long to come up with that one? Now if real people with a brain would like to comment and perhaps continue with a real discussion, I would like to hear it.

Max Wilcox added these pithy words on Jul 24 06 at 7:02 am

wow i just need to say that people that posted on this are the fucking stupidest people i have ever heard. Things such as this isnt real i zoomed in that stuffs not there. NO SHIT. Its a joke. Wow i just needed to post to make the retards feel even more stupid

wow added these pithy words on Jul 27 06 at 8:11 am

I dont mean to be the party pooper. But if I could just say that this look’s very photoshoped to me. I could of easily done it in 1 minute. Sorry guys but Party Poker isn’t that stupid enough to give away the truth that easily.

Randy vine added these pithy words on Aug 08 06 at 8:53 pm

ha ha thats funny.
goes hand in hand with the last 2 comments on pokerconduct.com.
Paranoia let loose!!

jim hughes added these pithy words on Aug 13 06 at 10:50 am

All of you may joke about this but it is out there and real… the reason why I know is because I do it. I have a full proof way of making my odds 70% to win every hand. that means the rest of you so called winners only beat me 30% of the time… Of course I cant tell you how I do it but trust me you idiots- there are cheats at your fav poker site… and we’re winning and winning and winning…hahahaha
So now who’s the fish- you doubters are, thats who…hahaaaaaaaaaaaa

Nolan Boatwright added these pithy words on Aug 17 06 at 8:25 pm

Hey, funny, bad editting…obvious, clean up ur spots lol… There is cheats out there, and somewhat rigged…but still its not like ur playing slots…its strategic. Its about raising.

Raise w/ bad hand- Loss
Confident hand raise- Cant lose…(rig wont affect) the 4 aces are a lie, someone else at the table had 1 :)

JJ added these pithy words on Aug 17 06 at 8:47 pm

ok on PARTYPOKER…last year….if the so called hacker isnt as good as you claim they are….and that there are no cheaters on that site you have a another thing coming…….EXPL;
I WAS SITTING AT A TABLE WHEN MY NORTON STOPPED A BACK DOOR TROJON FROM THE SAME GUY AT MY TABLE DURING A FREE ROLL…i then asked the guy if he knew that i knew what he was doing and he replyed;I DONT GIVE A RATS ASS PUNK……..my norton went off again…….and again stopped the backdoor trojon…i asked if he was trying to look at my hand .he said yup and im in your pc now and then laughed again…..they use a software program that bounces off the sites loopholes and backdoors to pull up the same table to see what everyone has…………….simply muting thier chat stops it……its a program that uses the chat option to backdoor trojon your pc…….. on partypoker,collusion and backdoor ghosting accures alot……..its for sale.,,,i was asked to buy it once,i did buy it for $100.00 and it worked…….i turned it in and that program no longer works….
so if you say cheating does not exsist.then you most likey are as guilty using one and do not want the rest of the un-neglected imbosils to be the wiser

Chris added these pithy words on Aug 22 06 at 10:06 pm

Firstly, the initial images that sparked off this debate were added via photoshop for sure. I mean do you really think partypoker are stupid enough to graphically show that they are cheating players out of their money?!! They can just as easily do it without giving hints on the screens as to what they’re upto!

Secondly, although the screenshots posted are fake, I really do think that the site, along with the majority of other worldwide online poker sites, is rigged in such a way that will create maximum profits for them. After all, they are in the cut-throat world of business and will take up any way of screwing people over to maximize profits…

It’s just way too much of a coincedence that there are so many bad beats happening on the sites. People may argue that the reason is due to the higher volume of hands being played compared to non-online poker games, but if you look at the statistics of it all you will find that there are WAY too many bad beats occuring.

So the final word on the subject is:
DON’T BE SO FUCKING STUPID AND STOP PLAYING ONLINE!

ENGLAND added these pithy words on Aug 24 06 at 1:04 pm

Ok, what we have here is the 90% ignorant and the 5% suspect and the last 5% whirlwind cheats.

You 90% ignorant are those who do not understand technology and dismiss an even slight implication that your so holy poker site would let this happen. Well ignorant 90% it DOES HAPPEN!

The 5% suspect think it could happen but it could never happen to THEM! Haaa, wrong again. Between source IP spoofing, loopback mirroring, SPAN ports, and all of the other related network architecture that non one except ppl like me understand- we have a fail proof way of lifting ur $$$.

As to the last 5% cheats, as of reading these posts I have decided to change sides from honest player to balls to the wall cheat, just to take all of you idiots $$$. You’re begging for it.

And I realize the funny photoshop pic’s of the poker characters were meant to be a spoof…but it should be all the posters on here who dont believe in cheats that should be laughed at! so HAHAHAHAAAA HAAHAH HAHAHAHAAAAAA

Nolan Boatwright added these pithy words on Aug 26 06 at 11:09 am

ROFL AMAZING, thank you!

Wow added these pithy words on Aug 28 06 at 2:25 pm

I just wrote a long ass fucking message and I guess because I didnt insert the addition it left the page and I lost the entire thing. FUCK THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THIS FUCKING SITE> FUCK THEM ALL!

HRB added these pithy words on Sep 11 06 at 6:02 am

lol, remove it then, trust me i don’t need this link to get to top of google. :)
Enjoy your days of ripping people off guys, have fun pulling your hair out,we’ve been doing it long enough, thanks to you. we’re not going ANYWHERE.

Whatgoesaroundcomesaround added these pithy words on Sep 12 06 at 3:59 am

I’m not sure which is funnier… the original joke, or the morons that feel how smart they must be for figuring out that the photo’s were edited. For example Randy vine on August 8, 2006. This was originally posted Nov 30, 2004 and he thinks 2 years later he’s educating us all to the fact tat this is a joke… Duh!

Great post Bill!

Curtis added these pithy words on Sep 13 06 at 4:58 am

Hehe - that is brilliant. I may link to this from PokerDIY if thats ok…

Rodney Joyce added these pithy words on Sep 18 06 at 4:44 am

5/10 limits,,,,,,,,,,,,,where’s the big blind?

jamie added these pithy words on Sep 24 06 at 3:22 pm

Pokerstarst and online poker is rigged. I was on the shortstack with 20 chips left, and i hit a full house 3’s full of 9’s. So i fold my suited connector next hand with my $100. The next hand i just smooth call my 34 off suit for 20. The flop comes 384. One guy put me in for my last $100 I predicted he had a pocket pair and the turn would put out another 8 to give him a higher 2 pair. Then when I called sure enough he had 99, and the turn threw out another 8 exactly as I predicted.

No I’m not pshychic I just have had this exact same scenario happen to me so many times, and it never varies is why I was able to predict this outcome. It’s a damn computer programmed, programmed to due whatever the programmers are paid to make it do. So to say it’s random is completely assanine.

Don't worry about it added these pithy words on Nov 08 06 at 3:57 pm

I know what you are saying. I was at Hollywood Poker, a skin of Poker Room. I was talking with another player who just beat my ace queen with king nine after pushing all in with it. Ok thats not so bad. Then, Im dealt pocket aces. The big stack on the table goes all in, and I say to my buddy,and this is EXACTLY what I said, “heres where I go out, watch this, Im going to get raped”. I called his ace ten all in with POCKET ACES, a 90% favorite. Flop comes 2-10-10- just as I predicted and Im out of the tourney. He didnt even need the turn or the river.
Ive requested the chat from HOLLYWOOD POKER, and the will NOT release it to me. I wonder why?
I played 200 hands in this tourney, but I picked the EXACT hand where I would go out. Hmmmm, seen it all before, HOLLYWOOD POKER.
Here is the hand history. Suck on it.

NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $5+$1 (Real Money), #1,235,214,967
> TURBO 5+0.5 Multi Table Tournament, 8 Nov 2006 3:40 AM ET
> Seat 1: GrandyH ($7,540 in chips)
> Seat 2: marigomess ($16,235 in chips)
> Seat 3: icewolf61 ($9,905 in chips)
> Seat 4: BAZ-N.Z ($13,580 in chips)
> Seat 6: s.moore ($16,090 in chips)
> Seat 7: Put_em_Up1 ($8,650 in chips)
> Seat 8: Vanny2121 ($8,090 in chips)
> Seat 9: Jenstomat ($18,300 in chips)
> Seat 10: Sucker ($9,710 in chips)
> ANTES/BLINDS
> GrandyH posts blind ($1,000), marigomess posts blind ($2,000).
>
> PRE-FLOP
> icewolf61 folds, BAZ-N.Z bets $13,580 and is all-in, s.moore folds,
> Put_em_Up1 folds, Vanny2121 folds, Jenstomat folds, Sucker calls $9,710
> and is all-in, GrandyH folds, marigomess folds.
>
> FLOP [board cards 2S,10H,10C ]
>
>
> TURN [board cards 2S,10H,10C,4S ]
>
>
> RIVER [board cards 2S,10H,10C,4S,2H ]
>
>
> SHOWDOWN
> BAZ-N.Z shows [ AS,10D ]
> Sucker shows [ AD,AH ]
> BAZ-N.Z wins $3,870, BAZ-N.Z wins $22,420.
> SUMMARY
> Dealer: Sucker
> Pot: $26,290
> GrandyH, loses $1,000
> marigomess, loses $2,000
> icewolf61, loses $0
> BAZ-N.Z, bets $13,580, collects $26,290, net $12,710
> s.moore, loses $0
> Put_em_Up1, loses $0
> Vanny2121, loses $0
> Jenstomat, loses $0
> Sucker, loses $9,710

I know whats what added these pithy words on Nov 23 06 at 3:44 pm

First I’d like to say the first photo is a joke…… but yes online poker is rigged! There are definately people out there that can see our cards, that must be a simple hack for any hacker. And I’m sure they would be smart about it as well, occassionally losing some hands. I’d lose hands on purpose if I knew what your next hand would be…… think about it…..

Ive copied and pasted some of my Good and bad beats, let me know if you wanna see them!

I play on pokerstars, but I play on the micro SNG! I’d like to see the pro’s play online and tell me these hands are realistic!

Its a DoGGy DoGG World!!!

KenDoGGy DoGG added these pithy words on Nov 26 06 at 8:54 pm

We do play online… Full Tilt is where the pros play….

The Mouth added these pithy words on Nov 30 06 at 8:47 am

Hey Bill,
Do you currently work for every poker site? Can you actually be 100 percent sure? Im not saying it is or not rigged, but just b/c a company has not been caught, doesnt mean they don’t rig it. Just b/c you can’t see why they would do it, doesnt mean its safe. There is greed in this world and people don’t give a fuck about stealing and who they steal from, or even how they do it. I have looked at the facts, and honestly I would not be stunned if they did get caught cheating the system. So on your website, say what you want but you can never be 100 percent sure.

Dustin added these pithy words on Dec 07 06 at 1:36 am

WOW!!! I DID THE SAME THING AND ZOOMED IN it looks like that imagine ware can edit to…there was no card in his sleve even if there was it wouldnt be able to be used and it proly would be hidden better…

wow!!! added these pithy words on Dec 12 06 at 5:01 pm

Online poker is rigged in a way! I believe certain players or all for that matter have handicaps!

Remember when you first played Online poker, you couldnt lose! You were a poker god! Thats because they hooked you in! Gave you an advantage of a handicap!

I don’t believe people can see our cards! Pokerstars is too secure to allow that to happen!

So all the pros goto Full Tilt eh?

Too many chasing donkeys on PS!!

DoGGy

kendoggydogg added these pithy words on Dec 13 06 at 5:33 am

Full Tilt, where the pros play HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Where you sit on the button with kings, guy tries to steal with ace six, you reraise him, he calls anyways, and he “miraculously” flops trip aces. Then you ask him why he called the reraise, he says my ace six was suited. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Where the pros play. Where the fish play and win like everywhere else. Keep the fish alive we need customers. Without the fish we have no poker room. 80% of our business would leave us. Where the pros play HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Knowthefacts added these pithy words on Dec 17 06 at 8:53 pm

OK I GOT IT!!!!!!

This is for real people!!! How do sites make money off you?? Through rakes and Buy ins! If I lost all my money then the site wouldn’t make anymore money off me!!!

So here’s what happens……. Pokerstars and the others all control your money! They let you win some and make you lose a bunch! You will always end up breaking even! But who really wins??? THE SITE!!! Thats right, they keep you in the game so they can collect Rakes and Buy ins from you!!!

Makes sense now doesn’t it!

I started with 50 dollars, got as high as 150, back down to 50, up to 150 again and again!!! Who is really winning???

You guessed it……

Think about it!!! This is for real!!

One more thing to add for online poker sites!!! Play any pocket pair, play A K, throw everything else away!!! If you have A Q, watch out, someone will have A K…… never fails!!!

This is how Online Poker is rigged!!!!!!!!!!!

kendoggydogg added these pithy words on Dec 20 06 at 6:52 pm

After 50 suckouts in a row on pokerstars!!!

This hand was the last draw for me!!! I quit!!

PokerStars Game #7805515263: Tournament #39894976,
Table ‘39894976 3′ 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Sukie2 (3705 in chips)
Seat 2: sincystar (12665 in chips)
Seat 4: kendoggydogg (8090 in chips)
Seat 6: PatrickMagee (8505 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: helda (2205 in chips)
Sukie2: posts the ante 25
sincystar: posts the ante 25
kendoggydogg: posts the ante 25
PatrickMagee: posts the ante 25
helda: posts the ante 25
PatrickMagee: posts small blind 200
helda: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kendoggydogg [5s 5h]
Sukie2: folds
sincystar: raises 400 to 800
kendoggydogg: raises 1200 to 2000
PatrickMagee: folds
helda: folds
sincystar: calls 1200
*** FLOP *** [Jc Ts 2d]
sincystar: bets 400
kendoggydogg: raises 800 to 1200
sincystar: calls 800
*** TURN *** [Jc Ts 2d] [Js]
sincystar: bets 9200
kendoggydogg: calls 4865 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Jc Ts 2d Js] [7d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sincystar: shows [Kc 7s] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
kendoggydogg: shows [5s 5h] (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
sincystar collected 16855 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 16855 | Rake 0
Board [Jc Ts 2d Js 7d]
Seat 1: Sukie2 folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 2: sincystar showed [Kc 7s] and won (16855) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 4: kendoggydogg (button) showed [5s 5h] and lost with two pair, Jacks and
Fives
Seat 6: PatrickMagee (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: helda (big blind) folded before Flop

Can someone explain to me what I did wrong here???

KenDoGG added these pithy words on Jan 06 07 at 8:26 pm

Uh, do you mean other than overplaying a small pocket pair?

I think you played this hand like a complete donkey and the results are quite expected.

The only pair on the table that you could possibly beat is the deuce. Based on the way this guy played the hand, I would have put him on a hand like KJ or AJ (though poorly plaid). Obviously he’s a bigger donkey than I expected but your play is just as bad, if not worse.

First off, you’re down to 5 handed. You’re well in good shape to money. The other two players are on the ropes and you’re almost tied for second. Why the hell would you get into a big pot with the only guy at the table who could bust you?

I won’t even get into how terribly you played this hand but suffice it to say that I disagree with nearly every play you made. Your call of his all-in was, IMHO, completely absurd. I can’t even think of a legitimate hand you should be thinking that you beat. The only hand you beat here is a bluff. You’re willing to bet your entire tournament life on beating an all-in bluff from the chip leader?

Bill added these pithy words on Jan 07 07 at 1:32 am

Look, I played at Party Poker, and had tons of bad beats….I stopped playing there. It seemed way to set-up, it was eerie. A bad beats one thing but to have someone call all-in with 82 off suit up against AA and flop a full house seems way to convenient. WHY THE CALL TO BEGIN WITH?? Was he stupid? OR was it a set-up? We’ll get to that in minute…OK Then I tried Paradise,It was just a joke all together but thats personal preference I guess… Now I play at Poker Stars and I have had my ups and downs and its the same there too, more bad beats. As well as Vegas Poker 24/7, I am 3rd place for the week on the tournament leader board, I came in 6th and won $458 this week in a $50 buy in NL tournament…I seen alot of bad beats that game too! BUT My point is, no matter where you play you will see and experience bad beats, its part of the game. BUT you can decrease your odds by playing a different stradegy! YOU ARE IN CONTROL OF YOUR CHIPS…They dont put a gun to your head and force you all-in….I understand AA is very good and if you move you move, but its your choice just the same as the idiot with 57 suited thats going to call “cause its suited”…..
Remember that. It’s basically a coin flip!! Use all-in moves to your advantage, not just to do it cause the book says to, people online are different!! Be aware of who your playing with, watch them and there moves, try to determine if thats type of player you want to move in front of rather wait a round and see the flop…..I try to never put ALL my chips at risk unless I have VERY good odds I will win. Now i been bad beaten before, but it was still my choice to put it all in! Sometimes I win, Sometimes I lose, sometimes its a good hand, sometimes its bad…thats poker.

bigdreams101 added these pithy words on Feb 01 07 at 8:17 pm

I agree its rigged but everyone just quit playin and go to the casino or get a house game going. we dont need to play on the internet

Get a life added these pithy words on Feb 20 07 at 8:55 pm

You are a damn idiot. The CIA doesn’t sell any kind of software on ebaY, much less “classified” vector digital imaging software for $